Russian earthquake….interesting times

[red viking]

9 minutes ago, mspart said:

Hamas takes the food aid and keeps it for themselves. 

This is literally one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. You expect Hamas not to take any food? As I've stated, when you have starvation and very limited food in an area, it is the people with weapons that will get a disproportionate amount of it. The way you fix this is to ensure that there's plenty of food so it isn't incredibly expensive. If you do that, then they won't have a reason to hoard it. 

[Undefeated]

20 minutes ago, red viking said:

Epitome of ethnic cleansing. Kick everybody of a particular ethno-religion out of the region and let another ethno-religion take over. Supported by the good 'ol USA and USA taxpayers. How far we've fallen.....

We always talk about how bad Nazi Germany was but this is pretty close. 

Israel is even more dangerous to the world than the Islamic Republic. And it’s not just about Gaza - they’ve also occupied the Golan Heights, which is Syrian territory, and claimed it as their own. And the U.S. actually recognized that claim. That’s straight-up daylight robbery.

 

[El Luchador]

8 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

Israel is even more dangerous to the world than the Islamic Republic. And it’s not just about Gaza - they’ve also occupied the Golan Heights, which is Syrian territory, and claimed it as their own. And the U.S. actually recognized that claim. That’s straight-up daylight robbery.

 

When you attack a country to take their land you don't have the moral high ground to ask for the land you lost back.  

[Offthemat]

I wish I could show this map, a comparison of the size of Israel and the Arab nations that surround it. 
 

https://iris.org.il/israel-and-the-arab-world/

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

When you attack a country to take their land you don't have the moral high ground to ask for the land you lost back.  

The wingers are unreal. You can't make this stuff up. Every time somebody attacks Israel, that gives them a license to permanently take land away from that country; as much as they want. Unreal. 

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

I wish I could show this map, a comparison of the size of Israel and the Arab nations that surround it. 
 

https://iris.org.il/israel-and-the-arab-world/

It really should be 100%/0%. 1948 never should have happened. If we felt the need to hand over land to a specific ethno-religiion (and hence take it away from another) we should have given them some of our own land. 

[El Luchador]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

The wingers are unreal. You can't make this stuff up. Every time somebody attacks Israel, that gives them a license to permanently take land away from that country; as much as they want. Unreal. 

It is so incomprehensible to think these nations can attack without repercussions.  Israel is just supposed to turn the other cheek every time and give a do over? So Israel can we have our land back? This just shows your hate for Israel blinds you so bad you don't even have basic common sense. 

[uncle bernard]

37 minutes ago, red viking said:

Epitome of ethnic cleansing. Kick everybody of a particular ethno-religion out of the region and let another ethno-religion take over. Supported by the good 'ol USA and USA taxpayers. How far we've fallen.....

We always talk about how bad Nazi Germany was but this is pretty close. 

We've passed the point of no return in Gaza. Netanyahu is openly talking about ethnic cleansing. Even if we were to start pumping food into Gaza, many would still die because they are at the point of starvation where serious medical intervention is needed and Israel has completely destroyed the medical infrastructure in Gaza. Over the last several months, 1000 civilians have been shot by the IDF and GHF contractors while waiting for the little food Israel allowed in (all while Israel is paying ISIS affiliated groups to steal the aid). The death toll will easily end up in the 6 figures.

The West Bank is next. They've already started ramping up operations there.

10 years from now, people like @mspart will claim he "didn't know" what was happening. Nobody should let them off the hook. They are holocaust deniers.

[red viking]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

It is so incomprehensible to think these nations can attack without repercussions.  Israel is just supposed to turn the other cheek every time and give a do over? So Israel can we have our land back? This just shows your hate for Israel blinds you so bad you don't even have basic common sense. 

None of them every wanted Israel to have any land to start with. The Palestinians were given a very small area relative to their population. It was unfair to begin with and Israel has simply continued to hog more land and established control of that land based upon ethnicity. Goes against everything the U.S. is supposed to stand for. 

[Undefeated]

16 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

When you attack a country to take their land you don't have the moral high ground to ask for the land you lost back.  

That land belongs to the people of Syria. It’s not some inheritance of the Syrian regime or its politicians that Israel can just claim because of conflicts with them.

[El Luchador]

2 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

That land belongs to the people of Syria. It’s not some inheritance of the Syrian regime or its politicians that Israel can just claim because of conflicts with them.

It's called a buffer zone and it's necessary because Syria can't behave. If they didn't attack first they'd still have it. Tough break Syria. 

[Offthemat]

 They can, and have. 

[red viking]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

It's called a buffer zone and it's necessary because Syria can't behave. If they didn't attack first they'd still have it. Tough break Syria. 

It's amazing how Israel is held to a different standard than everybody else. If N. Korea did something like this it would be an atrocity. The hypocrisy of the right is never-ending. 

[El Luchador]

7 minutes ago, red viking said:

It's amazing how Israel is held to a different standard than everybody else. If N. Korea did something like this it would be an atrocity. The hypocrisy of the right is never-ending. 

You are blind with hate. Syria illegally attacked Israel. They tried to destroy Israel. Israel would have been justified to reciprocate.  Instead they only pushed them back enough to protect their people more easily in the future. Don't start wars that you can't afford to lose.. Don't start land wars then complain about losing land. Don't kill your neighbor then complain about your personnel losses. 

[uncle bernard]

18 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

It's called a buffer zone and it's necessary because Syria can't behave. If they didn't attack first they'd still have it. Tough break Syria. 

It's also called a war crime.

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

You are blind with hate. Syria illegally attacked Israel. They tried to destroy Israel. Israel would have been justified to reciprocate.  Instead they only pushed them back enough to protect their people more easily in the future. Don't start wars that you can't afford to lose.. Don't start land wars then complain about losing land. Don't kill your neighbor then complain about your personnel losses. 

Don't ethnically cleanse 750k people from their ancestral homeland then complain when they try to take it back.

[Offthemat]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Don't ethnically cleanse 750k people from their ancestral homeland then complain when they try to take it back.

It works for Syria and Jordan.  

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

It works for Syria and Jordan.  

Explain what you mean by this.

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

It works for Syria and Jordan.  

Not sure what the hell you mean by this but, either way, we don't hand these countries blank checks and unlimited weapons to allow them to commit their atrocities. 

[El Luchador]

14 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

It's also called a war crime.

Yes Syria attacking Israel was a war crime, and you want to give them a do over.

[El Luchador]

14 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Don't ethnically cleanse 750k people from their ancestral homeland then complain when they try to take it back.

Do make up imagery stuff to justify a war 

[Undefeated]

People want the media to think for them - ‘cause thinking hurts. And you know what hurts even more? Standing up against the dominant pro-Israel narrative. But injustice is injustice, whether it comes from a Muslim, a Jew, or a Christian.

[Undefeated]

What’s wild is how your stance on this issue pretty much depends on where you were born. Born in Iran? You’re against Israel. Born in the U.S.? You’re all in for Israel. Like… can y’all stop being brainwashed by your damn media? They’re all killers - Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Khamenei - every single one of them a bunch of murderous bastards.

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Undefeated said:

What’s wild is how your stance on this issue pretty much depends on where you were born. Born in Iran? You’re against Israel. Born in the U.S.? You’re all in for Israel. Like… can y’all stop being brainwashed by your damn media? They’re all killers - Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Khamenei - every single one of them a bunch of murderous bastards.

There are some decent human beings in all of those countries. Just as many as over here. Just clarifying; I'm sure you know that. However, there are factors at play that help evil people get into power in those places, including Israel. 

[Offthemat]

31 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Explain what you mean by this.

‘Palestinians’ are vagabonds, mostly from Syria and Jordan, yet those countries kicked them out and won’t allow them to return.