Paul Pelosi attack

[mspart]

The video is out.   Kind of strange.   Door is opened to police by Pelosi, who is holding a drink and co-holding a hammer with DePape.   The police ask Depape to drop the hammer and he said he wasn't going to do that.   Then there was a struggle and DePape got the hammer out of Pelosi's grip and immediately attacked.   There was no time for the police to stop that action because they were trying to de-escalate the situation and it got out of hand in about 1 second.  

Very strange.   But not much defense for Depape after watching that.   You see the attack but they go out of visual range when the hammer hits Pelosi.    You can see the police body cam footage below. 

Should the police have attacked Depape to wrest the hammer away?   That is not de-escalation but escalation.   It might have worked, but as they were standing there, both holding the hammer and Depape saying things were cool, I'm guessing the police were not to concerned something bad was going to happen.   This is just strange.   Pelosi is not indicating he is in distress or thinks he may be, however, his mouth is open the whole time like he wants to say something, but I didn't hear him say anything.   It was all Depape talking. 

I honestly don't know what to make of this.   Pelosi should have gotten a body lock on him and took him to the cleaners.   Hammer blow would be less hurtfull that way I think.   I'm guessing Pelosi wasn't recalling his old wrestling moves at that moment.   Very weird.   Strange beginning and very violent end.   Now we all know what happened.

mspart

[jross]

Paul really was under threat but spoke in riddles and might have been drunk or have dementia.  The phone call conversation with the dispatcher was weird.  The way he answered the door and spoke to the police was weird.  It seems a crazy guy broke into the house looking for Nancy and hit Paul over the head with a hammer.  They should have released these videos immediately and avoided the conspiracy talk.

Edited January 27, 2023 by jross

[mspart]

I'd say it is apparent that DePape hit him at least one time.   Going to stay in the pokey for a long time.

mspart

[Crotalus]

On 1/27/2023 at 2:08 PM, mspart said:

I honestly don't know what to make of this.   Pelosi should have gotten a body lock on him and took him to the cleaners.   Hammer blow would be less hurtfull that way I think.   I'm guessing Pelosi wasn't recalling his old wrestling moves at that moment.

I'm sure this is a joke, but Pelosi is 82, whereas DePape is 42 and looks to have a very considerable size advantage. 

As for how the police handled the situation, that is a good question. I'd be interested to hear the opinion of other LEOs as to what the best approach would be. Seems like they handled it OK. I assume de-escalation is the ideal approach, but it kind of ended up as a "dammed if you do, dammed if you don't".

[El Luchador]

The Perp called a local news station after the video was released.  He is a bit of a nut job.

Edited January 29, 2023 by El Luchador

[mspart]

On 1/28/2023 at 4:42 PM, Crotalus said:

I'm sure this is a joke, but Pelosi is 82, whereas DePape is 42 and looks to have a very considerable size advantage. 

As for how the police handled the situation, that is a good question. I'd be interested to hear the opinion of other LEOs as to what the best approach would be. Seems like they handled it OK. I assume de-escalation is the ideal approach, but it kind of ended up as a "dammed if you do, dammed if you don't".

Yes, I think so.   If Pelosi was afraid, he should have let go and run out the door.  Very weird, very weird.

mspart

[Nailbender]

I want to know why Pelosi had a drink in one hand? I saw that correctly, right?

[mspart]

Yes, you saw that correctly.   He's co-holding onto a hammer with one hand and  had a drink or can or something in the other.  My advice would have been to ditch both and run out the door and let the cops handle DePape.   But he didn't even appear to be rattled at all, and he's the one that called 911.  Weird, very weird.

mspart

[headshuck]

Could Paul have fooled David into thinking he called someone other than 911? Someone worth dropping your pants and mixing a drink?

[Nailbender]

Spend your time how you want but when the hammers come out, I suggest keeping both hands free....just in case.

[mspart]

And don't stand in front of the guy with the hammer.   I can't even imagine that.  He looked like he took a good swing, amazing Pelosi is not dead already. 

mspart