Klepto in Chief?

[Caveira]

9 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Here's what's interesting... roughly half (some estimate as high as 70%) of the people swept up in the ICE raids have no criminal record!

100% of illegal aliens committed a crime.  

[Tripnsweep]

6 hours ago, Caveira said:

100% of illegal aliens committed a crime.  

False. 

[Tripnsweep]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2025/07/2026-world-cup-fifa-considers-moving-games-from-usa-to-canada-amid-immigration-policies/amp/

If this happens, our economy loses big-time because of Trump. But as long as he gets to discriminate against brown and black people, who cares right? 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2025/07/2026-world-cup-fifa-considers-moving-games-from-usa-to-canada-amid-immigration-policies/amp/

If this happens, our economy loses big-time because of Trump. But as long as he gets to discriminate against brown and black people, who cares right? 

It’s not discrimination to deport illegal aliens.  They broke the law.  Every single one of them.  

[WrestlingRasta]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

It’s not discrimination to deport illegal aliens.  They broke the law.  Every single one of them.  

Correct. But a problem exists in the number of people being swept up who are not illegal.  Hence FIFA’s concern.  

[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Correct. But a problem exists in the number of people being swept up who are not illegal.  Hence FIFA’s concern.  

Meh.  Political theatre tbh 

 

also you can save your moral indignation when you find a rando trump story about deporting  an one off American accidentally.  Obama the reporter in Chief did you. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Caveira

[Caveira]

24 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Correct. But a problem exists in the number of people being swept up who are not illegal.  Hence FIFA’s concern.  

FIFA is a top 5 most corrupt organization on earth.  You can save your moral indignation 

[WrestlingRasta]

22 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Meh.  Political theatre tbh 

 

also you can save your moral indignation when you find a rando trump story about deporting  an one off American accidentally.  Obama the reporter in Chief did you. 

Wait….what???   Your writing skills are catching up to your comprehension skills. 

[WrestlingRasta]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

FIFA is a top 5 most corrupt organization on earth.  You can save your moral indignation 

Always looking to shift.   That has zero to do with the number of people being swept up who are not illegal.  But hey, you do you, whatever you can to give you your warm fuzzies!!

You’re approaching Jimmy levels of adorable with having to quote the same post multiple times…

Edited 11 hours ago by WrestlingRasta

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Wait….what???   Your writing skills are catching up to your comprehension skills. 

You’re going to find a story where 1 random American was deported.  Obama did it on accident too.  So save it 

[WrestlingRasta]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

You’re going to find a story where 1 random American was deported.  Obama did it on accident too.  So save it 

One?   Okay . Get your warm fuzzies.  More shifting.  We’ve went from FIFA to Obama
 

And….what am I saving??

Edited 11 hours ago by WrestlingRasta

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

One?   Okay . Get your warm fuzzies.  More shifting.  We’ve went from FIFA to Obama
 

And….what am I saving??

Both are political theatre arguments.  

[Tripnsweep]

Trump essentially stole the CWC trophy, and pocketed a winner's medal. Neither of which he earned, and only has because he took them and refused to return them. 

[Tripnsweep]

7 hours ago, Caveira said:

It’s not discrimination to deport illegal aliens.  They broke the law.  Every single one of them.  

Being present in the US without current documents is not a criminal offense. It's a civil violation, like a speeding ticket. 

Source: Working in an immigration law firm for a decade. 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

16 hours ago, Caveira said:

100% of illegal aliens committed a crime.  

Nope. Not true. (see Trip's post above)

But 100% of the current President has committed a long list of crimes, including at least a couple dozen felonies.
(See link in earlier post.)

I agree we should fight crime. It's time to 8647.

Let's impeach this lying fat old orange mush brain and put the country back on track.

Edited 7 hours ago by GreatWhiteNorth

[Lipdrag]

7 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Being present in the US without current documents is not a criminal offense. It's a civil violation, like a speeding ticket. 

Source: Working in an immigration law firm for a decade. 

Several points of discussion here:

1 - It is still against the law - just like speeding is against the law. 

2 - Current documents implies proper documents were in place at one time.  So, let's stipulate that lapsed documents is not a crime.  However, just like speeding this violation comes with penalties.  Additionally, the penalties escalate with the severity of the circumstances.  You can lose your privilege to drive and be jailed for speeding so egregiously that you endanger life and limb of others.   For legal (at one time) aliens the penalty can range from "fix it in 2 weeks" to deportation with no option to return.

3 - Driving without a license or on a suspended license is a crime.  If proper immigration and residence papers were never obtained then we are dealing with criminals, not civil violators.

4 - Another apt analogy to the traffic comparison:  Traffic check points for seat belts or DUI.  People who are stone cold sober and wearing their seat belts get "swept up".  Then they are quickly released when they are not the target of the enforcement action.  

Source:  living in America