Let The Stock Market Burn!!!

[Bigbrog]

  On 4/4/2025 at 5:58 PM, Boring said:

Kindly tell me which of his "policies" you like so much. His catering to Putin policies? His crash the stock market intentionally policies? His kidnapping critics and sending them to foreign prison policies? 

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Easy...I like what he has done with the boarder...I am all for people coming to the USA but doing it legally...doing it illegally hurts everyone for many reasons.  I like the change in narrative around police and the rule of law.  I like people that are here on a visa and support a terrorist organization being deported (funny that you claim it is because they are critics of Trump LOL), I like the idea of further increasing the production of oil in the USA, I like the concept of DOGE and removing waste within the government.

I'll ask you, can you show me where Trump is catering to Putin policies?  Like actual evidence versus saying something like "His kidnapping critics and sending them to foreign prison policies" which is categorically false and just a talking point.

[Bigbrog]

  On 4/4/2025 at 6:09 PM, scourge165 said:

Because you specifically said we'll elect someone else in 4 years and predicted what will happen then.

So...ya know, it feels kinda relevant that the guy who refused to leave office last time and ONLY actually left because his VP refused to go along with his plan...says he's going to "run" again in 2028.

 

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LOL...that's fine...think that all you want...there is NO WAY that will ever happen.

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/4/2025 at 3:46 PM, scourge165 said:

Yes...and I DEFINITELY said it'd happen 12 hours after the initial announcement and then 36 hours after.

 

You DO see the markets, right? It hasn't been two days, but the guy who didn't know what AI was keeps showing everyone what an economic genius he is. 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/powell-inflation-from-trumps-larger-than-expected-tariffs-could-be-more-persistent-152503150.html?.tsrc=fin-notif

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-crater-after-chinas-tariffs-turn-up-the-trade-war-heat-133033135.html?.tsrc=fin-notif

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Yep ya did say that.  

[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 6:12 PM, Bigbrog said:

LOL...that's fine...think that all you want...there is NO WAY that will ever happen.

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It's funny, I was watch Fox Business...about a year ago and they were talking about the strength of the market and Tom Lee called it the "roaring 20s." And then the person interviewing said, "well, but remember what came after the roaring 20s," and his response was, "that was brought on by economic policy that we would never bring back again."

 

[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 6:34 PM, JimmySpeaks said:

Yep ya did say that.  

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....yeah, see, Rob, you can complain about me calling people idiots, but there's just no other way to respond to this but to call him a moron. 

 

We were in a bull market three days ago. Never once did I say we were going from a bull market to a DEPRESSION within 36 hours.

By the way, chances of a RECESSION...if you'll remember, yesterday you mocked THAT idea because it was only 35%...now up to 60%. 

This is quite literally unprecedented.

 

Only twice has there a 10% drop in the SPX.

Under Bush and now under Trump

Bush came in during the Dot Com Bubble. When companies were trading for 200 PEs(I'd say good look up what that is, but...this isn't really for you as I understand you don't understand this). 

The top companies were trading at a ~20 PE, maybe 26. Amazon, a company that's going to earn a trillion dollars one year in the not too distant future, they probably traded at a 35+ PE, but NOTHING like the dot.com era.

 

This? Taking a BULL MARKET and causing a Crash this quickly?  It has literally NEVER-HAPPENED. 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/4/2025 at 6:45 PM, scourge165 said:

....yeah, see, Rob, you can complain about me calling people idiots, but there's just no other way to respond to this but to call him a moron. 

 

We were in a bull market three days ago. Never once did I say we were going from a bull market to a DEPRESSION within 36 hours.

By the way, chances of a RECESSION...if you'll remember, yesterday you mocked THAT idea because it was only 35%...now up to 60%. 

This is quite literally unprecedented.

 

Only twice has there a 10% drop in the SPX.

Under Bush and now under Trump

Bush came in during the Dot Com Bubble. When companies were trading for 200 PEs(I'd say good look up what that is, but...this isn't really for you as I understand you don't understand this). 

The top companies were trading at a ~20 PE, maybe 26. Amazon, a company that's going to earn a trillion dollars one year in the not too distant future, they probably traded at a 35+ PE, but NOTHING like the dot.com era.

 

This? Taking a BULL MARKET and causing a Crash this quickly?  It has literally NEVER-HAPPENED. 

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I’m having a hard time understanding why someone as smart as yourself spends most all his time on a “non wrestling topics” social media platform calling other people names.   Shouldn’t you be running the country by now?  Or at least consulting like Elon is.   

[Scouts Honor]

im not kidding when i say

scourge 165 for economics advisor

he seems pretty smart to me.

now if we can just get him with the attitude of taking it to these other countries for once.

 

so many people claim it's trump that wants NATO to pay... and all these other countries to pay for these tariffs.

Well, these ideas existed many years ago... Ron Paul wrote a book, and I think Trump read it.

[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 7:59 PM, Scouts Honor said:

im not kidding when i say

scourge 165 for economics advisor

he seems pretty smart to me.

now if we can just get him with the attitude of taking it to these other countries for once.

 

so many people claim it's trump that wants NATO to pay... and all these other countries to pay for these tariffs.

Well, these ideas existed many years ago... Ron Paul wrote a book, and I think Trump read it.

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[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 7:59 PM, Scouts Honor said:

im not kidding when i say

scourge 165 for economics advisor

he seems pretty smart to me.

now if we can just get him with the attitude of taking it to these other countries for once.

 

so many people claim it's trump that wants NATO to pay... and all these other countries to pay for these tariffs.

Well, these ideas existed many years ago... Ron Paul wrote a book, and I think Trump read it.

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Oh...and I don't think Trump listened to Ron Paul on this one;

 

[scourge165]

 

[Scouts Honor]

  On 4/4/2025 at 8:14 PM, scourge165 said:

Oh...and I don't think Trump listened to Ron Paul on this one;

 

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that's not ron paul

and i dont disagree with what Rand is saying, but maybe he isn't going to keep them

maybe he is jus tusing them as leverage

i dont know

[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 6:52 PM, JimmySpeaks said:

I’m having a hard time understanding why someone as smart as yourself spends most all his time on a “non wrestling topics” social media platform calling other people names.   Shouldn’t you be running the country by now?  Or at least consulting like Elon is.   

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I'm having a hard time understanding how you think that I think it's "smart," to NOT put blanket tariffs on EVERY Nation(but Russia).

No...I'm not "that smart," it's just the person who implemented these(illegally by the way, tariffs are supposed to go through both houses) is just that dumb and then there are people like you who...have absolutely NO clue what you're talking about.

 

This is like threatening China and Russia with War at the same time and people saying, 'hey, that's a bad idea,' and then people of your ilk saying, 'if it's such a bad idea, why aren't YOU president or advising the President!'

 

I guess when you laugh at the idea that US is leading in AI, it may make sense that someone pointing out the market dumping 20%...in a BULL Market is a BAD thing, that may be confusing to you. 

To most people, they understand that. 

[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 8:20 PM, Scouts Honor said:

that's not ron paul

and i dont disagree with what Rand is saying, but maybe he isn't going to keep them

maybe he is jus tusing them as leverage

i dont know

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You don't agree? Most of it is just stating historical fact. This is what happened the last two times we implemented tariffs like this. 

Using them as leverage? 

He says he isn't, but he's not exactly honest/consistent. Sadly, this is why nobody actually thought he was dumb enough to do this. 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-china-retaliates-with-34-tariff-as-trump-digs-in-vows-to-never-change-policies-191201052.html

[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 8:14 PM, scourge165 said:

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So...what happens when the Dow drops 2200 points in ONE day? Should Trump be impeached immediately?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-plunges-2200-points-nasdaq-enters-bear-market-as-trump-tariffs-spark-worst-meltdown-since-2020-200042876.html?.tsrc=fin-notif

[scourge165]

  On 4/4/2025 at 8:20 PM, Scouts Honor said:

that's not ron paul

and i dont disagree with what Rand is saying, but maybe he isn't going to keep them

maybe he is jus tusing them as leverage

i dont know

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Here's Ron..."What's a libertarian think of tariffs."
-"Well, first of all, we don't like 'em."

 

Now...THIS is actually an interesting discussion. But note, it's tariffs ON CHINA to negotiate. And NOT 54% taxes on Americans. 

But for Rand Paul who "wrote the book on tariffs," that you claim Trump read, he must not have read it very clearly. 

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[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/4/2025 at 8:21 PM, scourge165 said:

I'm having a hard time understanding how you think that I think it's "smart," to NOT put blanket tariffs on EVERY Nation(but Russia).

No...I'm not "that smart," it's just the person who implemented these(illegally by the way, tariffs are supposed to go through both houses) is just that dumb and then there are people like you who...have absolutely NO clue what you're talking about.

 

This is like threatening China and Russia with War at the same time and people saying, 'hey, that's a bad idea,' and then people of your ilk saying, 'if it's such a bad idea, why aren't YOU president or advising the President!'

 

I guess when you laugh at the idea that US is leading in AI, it may make sense that someone pointing out the market dumping 20%...in a BULL Market is a BAD thing, that may be confusing to you. 

To most people, they understand that. 

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Yep you did it again.  Leading IS NOT DOMINATION.  I love that you switched it though. 

[JimmySpeaks]

$36. Trillion in debt.  Because of brilliant economists 

[red viking]

  On 4/4/2025 at 11:45 PM, JimmySpeaks said:

$36. Trillion in debt.  Because of brilliant economists 

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Economist have zero control over that. It's due to politicians,  like Trump. 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/4/2025 at 11:53 PM, red viking said:

Economist have zero control over that. It's due to politicians,  like Trump. 

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And Biden. Who listen to economists 

[red viking]

  On 4/4/2025 at 11:54 PM, JimmySpeaks said:

And Biden. Who listen to economists 

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Those aren't his main people he relies upon for decisions. Dumb comment. 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/4/2025 at 11:56 PM, red viking said:

Those aren't his main people he relies upon for decisions. Dumb comment. 

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So who does he rely on then when it concerns the economy ?Dumb reply 

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[JimmySpeaks]

All levels of our government hire and use economists 

[red viking]

  On 4/5/2025 at 12:03 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

So who does he rely on then when it concerns the economy ?Dumb reply 

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He makes decisions that will be popular w voters and his donors. Just like most other politicians. 

You're REALLY DUMB if u think politicians typically try to do " the right thing." 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/5/2025 at 12:12 AM, red viking said:

He makes decisions that will be popular w voters and his donors. Just like most other politicians. 

You're REALLY DUMB if u think politicians typically try to do " the right thing." 

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Please tell me where I said politicians do the right thing.  I’ll wait.  

[JimmySpeaks]

Politicians and idiot economists are why we’re $36 trillion in debt.  But hey let’s just keep,doing the same old same old.