The sad state of NIL today

[pokemonster]

This just about sums it all up in one post... Thoughts? 

[BuckyBadger]

College wrestling is still fun, but becoming less fun

[boconnell]

2 hours ago, pokemonster said:

This just about sums it all up in one post... Thoughts? 

If this is real.  I don't think 15th in their weight class recruits are really getting any real money that would result in a negotiator.  This looks more like someone who thinks the state of NIL is sad so they are making up a super sad story.

But if they're serious, they should receive about 2 pizzas for their work setting up the NIL deal for a mid level freshman wrestling recruit.

[macwoodfleet]

This dude is doing a bit lol

[pokemonster]

What is the going rate for a wrestler of this caliber? NIL brokers? Are these real things?

[headshuck]

NILB - Name, image and likeness broker.

[IllegalFist2Back]

[warren_haynes]

Jay Bilas was talking about this (albeit on the basketball front) the other day. 

 

Until the athletes are considered employees by the school, there really isn't anything that can be done. The current laws that are on the books don't allow anyone to tell a student where they can go to school or how they can monetize their likeness. That applies to receiving money while not using their likeness. All of the other conversations about how we "wish things were" are silly. 

[ionel]

7 hours ago, boconnell said:

If this is real.  I don't think 15th in their weight class recruits are really getting any real money that would result in a negotiator.  This looks more like someone who thinks the state of NIL is sad so they are making up a super sad story.

But if they're serious, they should receive about 2 pizzas for their work setting up the NIL deal for a mid level freshman wrestling recruit.

If no one knows who this is then how can he/she have any image value?  Now is someone willing to pay him/her to play the sport ... well what is 15th at weight worth at NCAA tournament?  Probably not even half a point so ... 

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

If no one knows who this is then how can he/she have any image value?  Now is someone willing to pay him/her to play the sport ... well what is 15th at weight worth at NCAA tournament?  Probably not even half a point so ... 

the guy got roasted by the internet for the request.   I think the ss from the op is the pic posted on the minnows fb page.  With that said is he a high school sophomore or a college kid?

Edited Monday at 02:00 PM by Caveira

[boconnell]

1 hour ago, warren_haynes said:

Jay Bilas was talking about this (albeit on the basketball front) the other day. 

 

Until the athletes are considered employees by the school, there really isn't anything that can be done. The current laws that are on the books don't allow anyone to tell a student where they can go to school or how they can monetize their likeness. That applies to receiving money while not using their likeness. All of the other conversations about how we "wish things were" are silly. 

Why would we want to tell a student how they can monetize their likeness?  Why would we want to limit them from receiving money for any wrestling related reason?

[ionel]

19 minutes ago, boconnell said:

Why would we want to tell a student how they can monetize their likeness?  Why would we want to limit them from receiving money for any wrestling related reason?

Can you give some good examples of how college wrestlers have monetized their likeness?  

[WrestlingRash]

36 minutes ago, ionel said:

Can you give some good examples of how college wrestlers have monetized their likeness?  

Gable Steveson in the WWE video game

[ionel]

That sounds like WWE.  With all the money floated around there has to be better examples.

[pokemonster]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

the guy got roasted by the internet for the request.   I think the ss from the op is the pic posted on the minnows fb page.  With that said is he a high school sophomore or a college kid?

Yes this is from Minnows page, won't let me edit the original post. 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Yes this is from Minnows page, won't let me edit the original post. 

No worries.  I saw it there too.   

[boconnell]

2 hours ago, ionel said:

Can you give some good examples of how college wrestlers have monetized their likeness?  

There are a ton of wrestlers mentioning products to social media followers.  That is by far the most common way to monetize your likeness.  

[ionel]

Just now, boconnell said:

There are a ton of wrestlers mentioning products to social media followers.  That is by far the most common way to monetize your likeness.  

Then it should be easy to list one or two worth $100 to $250k ... for example what was Buchanan promoting? 

[boconnell]

Just now, ionel said:

Then it should be easy to list one or two worth $100 to $250k ... for example what was Buchanan promoting? 

Where did I ever say anything about hundreds of thousands of dollars?  Or Buchanan?  

If you wanted to beat up a strawman, you didn't need to quote me to do it.

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, boconnell said:

Where did I ever say anything about hundreds of thousands of dollars?  Or Buchanan?  

If you wanted to beat up a strawman, you didn't need to quote me to do it.

That was the question and what they are getting paid so where are the examples of image value? 

[Caveira]

42 minutes ago, ionel said:

That was the question and what they are getting paid so where are the examples of image value? 

Wasn’t aj making insta vids or what not with product in his hands back at okie state.  Steaks and hair gel or some nonsense like that?   
 

screams getting paid.  

Edited Monday at 05:35 PM by Caveira

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Wasn’t aj making insta vids or what not with product in his hands back at okie state.  Steaks and hair gel or some nonsense like that?   
 

screams getting paid.  

AJ didn't get $100 to $250k of NIL to wrestle at OSU.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

AJ didn't get $100 to $250k of NIL to wrestle at OSU.

I just said it screams he was paid for that.  Not how Much he was paid.  

[CHROMEBIRD]

5 hours ago, warren_haynes said:

Jay Bilas was talking about this (albeit on the basketball front) the other day. 

 

Until the athletes are considered employees by the school, there really isn't anything that can be done. The current laws that are on the books don't allow anyone to tell a student where they can go to school or how they can monetize their likeness. That applies to receiving money while not using their likeness. All of the other conversations about how we "wish things were" are silly. 

I don't see how athletes could not be considered employees once the House settlement goes into effect. Schools & athletic departments worry about this, because then it will be a matter of time before athletes unionize and further de-leverage their institutions. I look forward to being able to look up the compensation of d1 athletes at public universities.

[CHROMEBIRD]

3 hours ago, ionel said:

Can you give some good examples of how college wrestlers have monetized their likeness?  

Bartlett doing backflips for Gatorade ads