Illegal Protests

[Tripnsweep]

6 minutes ago, jross said:

 

Around a dozen had their sentences commuted to time served, with offences retained on their record.

Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. 

[Gene Mills Fan]

9 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. 

Would that include Hunter, Liz and the others? 

[Tripnsweep]

5 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

Would that include Hunter, Liz and the others? 

There's a difference if you haven't been charged with anything and it's preemptive. But I believe Hunter had already pleaded guilty so it didn't really matter. Kind of like when Symington got a pardon from Bill Clinton after he had saved Clinton from drowning in college. Symington was guilty as sin and if he had been anyone else, he would have gone to prison just like Charles Keating. 

[jross]

17 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. 

commuting a sentence is not the same as pardoning

[jross]

20 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. 

Legally, you are free and clear, guilty or not.

[Tripnsweep]

7 hours ago, jross said:

 

Legally, you are free and clear, guilty or not.

But you still have to sign a paper admitting you did it. 

[jross]

32 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

But you still have to sign a paper admitting you did it. 

show me an example or law?

[Scouts Honor]

16 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. 

i agree, fauci, hunter and all those others who biden pardoned

[Scouts Honor]

15 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

There's a difference if you haven't been charged with anything and it's preemptive. But I believe Hunter had already pleaded guilty so it didn't really matter. Kind of like when Symington got a pardon from Bill Clinton after he had saved Clinton from drowning in college. Symington was guilty as sin and if he had been anyone else, he would have gone to prison just like Charles Keating. 

why would you need a preemptive pardon? 

[Scouts Honor]

left: if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to hide

also the left: getting a pardon means you are guilty

[jross]

It doesn't matter if every single one of the pardoned J6ers are guilty of the crimes they were charged with.  BECAUSE pre-pardon, J6 dismissals were under 1%. Compare that to Portland where ~60% of federal cases were dismissed. BECAUSE that is the ideologic justice we were living under.  

Were most of the people guilty?  Yes.  Were people pre-detained for 300+ days?  Yes.  Were prosecutors trying to slap the hardest crime possible?  Yes.  Did rejected plea deals lead to escalating indictments?  Yes.  Coercion.  Yes.

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