Tripnsweep Posted March 5 Posted March 5 On 3/5/2025 at 8:45 PM, jross said: Around a dozen had their sentences commuted to time served, with offences retained on their record. Expand Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty.
Gene Mills Fan Posted March 5 Posted March 5 On 3/5/2025 at 8:52 PM, Tripnsweep said: Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. Expand Would that include Hunter, Liz and the others?
Tripnsweep Posted March 5 Posted March 5 On 3/5/2025 at 9:02 PM, Gene Mills Fan said: Would that include Hunter, Liz and the others? Expand There's a difference if you haven't been charged with anything and it's preemptive. But I believe Hunter had already pleaded guilty so it didn't really matter. Kind of like when Symington got a pardon from Bill Clinton after he had saved Clinton from drowning in college. Symington was guilty as sin and if he had been anyone else, he would have gone to prison just like Charles Keating.
jross Posted March 5 Posted March 5 On 3/5/2025 at 8:52 PM, Tripnsweep said: Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. Expand commuting a sentence is not the same as pardoning 1
jross Posted March 5 Posted March 5 On 3/5/2025 at 8:52 PM, Tripnsweep said: Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. Expand Legally, you are free and clear, guilty or not.
Tripnsweep Posted March 6 Posted March 6 On 3/5/2025 at 9:14 PM, jross said: Legally, you are free and clear, guilty or not. Expand But you still have to sign a paper admitting you did it.
jross Posted March 6 Posted March 6 On 3/6/2025 at 4:58 AM, Tripnsweep said: But you still have to sign a paper admitting you did it. Expand show me an example or law?
Scouts Honor Posted March 6 Posted March 6 On 3/5/2025 at 8:52 PM, Tripnsweep said: Accepting a pardon means you admit you're guilty. Expand i agree, fauci, hunter and all those others who biden pardoned
Scouts Honor Posted March 6 Posted March 6 On 3/5/2025 at 9:10 PM, Tripnsweep said: There's a difference if you haven't been charged with anything and it's preemptive. But I believe Hunter had already pleaded guilty so it didn't really matter. Kind of like when Symington got a pardon from Bill Clinton after he had saved Clinton from drowning in college. Symington was guilty as sin and if he had been anyone else, he would have gone to prison just like Charles Keating. Expand why would you need a preemptive pardon?
Scouts Honor Posted March 6 Posted March 6 left: if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to hide also the left: getting a pardon means you are guilty
jross Posted March 6 Posted March 6 It doesn't matter if every single one of the pardoned J6ers are guilty of the crimes they were charged with. BECAUSE pre-pardon, J6 dismissals were under 1%. Compare that to Portland where ~60% of federal cases were dismissed. BECAUSE that is the ideologic justice we were living under. Were most of the people guilty? Yes. Were people pre-detained for 300+ days? Yes. Were prosecutors trying to slap the hardest crime possible? Yes. Did rejected plea deals lead to escalating indictments? Yes. Coercion. Yes. 1
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