Lee and Ayala beef?

[ionel]

2 hours ago, MadMardigain said:

If Lee had two good knees would he be as good?  These are questions we need to know. 

Thought he did have two good knees now.  

[Crotalus]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Thought he did have two good knees now.  

Two repaired knees..... remains to be seen how good they are or how long they can last. His knees are now held together by parts of his other tendons, dead guy tendons, or something artificial. 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Crotalus said:

Two repaired knees..... remains to be seen how good they are or how long they can last. His knees are now held together by parts of his other tendons, dead guy tendons, or something artificial. 

My experience, there's a point (he should be there) where your knee is 100% of what it was.  Now rehabbing two at once can be different, but its not like Spencer had a job or something that got in the way of his rehab schedule. 

[Crotalus]

39 minutes ago, ionel said:

My experience, there's a point (he should be there) where your knee is 100% of what it was.  Now rehabbing two at once can be different, but its not like Spencer had a job or something that got in the way of his rehab schedule. 

Yes, both at once and had a previous ACL repair on one limb. He talked about having special hamstrings allowing him to wrestle without ACLs, but his joints seem as stable as an Ikea bookshelf. They'll hold as long as he doesn't move them. 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Crotalus said:

Yes, both at once and had a previous ACL repair on one limb. He talked about having special hamstrings allowing him to wrestle without ACLs, but his joints seem as stable as an Ikea bookshelf. They'll hold as long as he doesn't move them. 

I see a NIL deal here.  

[jchapman]

4 minutes ago, Crotalus said:

Yes, both at once and had a previous ACL repair on one limb. He talked about having special hamstrings allowing him to wrestle without ACLs, but his joints seem as stable as an Ikea bookshelf. They'll hold as long as he doesn't move them. 

I would love love to hear more about his special hamstrings.  Any details?

[gimpeltf]

5 minutes ago, jchapman said:

I would love love to hear more about his special hamstrings.  Any details?

Basically means they're very strong. The ACL keeps the femur from sliding forward compared to lower leg. So do the hamstrings if strong enough.

[jchapman]

3 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

Basically means they're very strong. The ACL keeps the femur from sliding forward compared to lower leg. So do the hamstrings if strong enough.

I understand how strong hamstrings can help stabilize the knee joint, but I’m interested in Lee’s special hamstrings.  A lot of athletes have strong hamstrings…

[Crotalus]

10 minutes ago, jchapman said:

I would love love to hear more about his special hamstrings.  Any details?

He just made a comment in an interview I saw somewhere where he talked about how his hamstrings allowed him to do things most people wouldn't be able to do with a torn ACL. The word "special" was mine. I'm sure a lot of wrestlers would fall into that category. We know Yianni won with a torn ACL and Kerk is currently wrestling with a torn ACL.

Also, here's a doctor's perspective:

https://youtu.be/p0J91XXv6yg