Winners Circle Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Dual predictions in bullet points, NCAA predictions in sub bullet points. IOWA vs OSU 125: Spratley md Cruz 4-0 Pokes Spratley: AA (top 6) Cruz: 1-2 133: Ayala md Witcraft 4-4 Witcraft: 1-2 Ayala: AA (top 6) 141: Hughes dec Block 7-4 Pokes (I wouldn't fight you if you had Block by dec) Hughes: R12 Block: R16 149: Parco dec Jamison 7-7 Jamison: R16 Parco: AA (6-8) 157: Teemer dec Fish/Travis 10-7 Hawks Fish/Travis AA (6-8) Teemer: AA (top 4) 165: Caliendo dec Amine 13-7 Hawks (But I wouldn't be surprised if a change of scenery brings out the old Amine and he pulls the upset) Amine: AA (top 6) Caliendo: AA (top 4) 174: Brands dec Hamiti 16-7 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hamiti by dec here though) Hamiti: AA (top 6) Brands: AA (top 6) 184: Plott dec Arnold 16-10 Hawks Plott: AA (top 3) Arnold: AA (6-8) 197: Buchanan dec Surber/Merrill 19-10 Hawks Surber/Merrill: R12 Buchanan: AA (top 4) 285: Hendrickson dec Keuter 19-13 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hendrickson bonus points here) Hendrickson: AA (top 3) Keuter: R12 Close dual but I think we can all agree Hawks would be favored. NCAA tournament is interesting. Pokes have 6 AA's, Hawks have 7. Pokes have big bonus points from Hendrickson and Plott. I'd give the edge to the Pokes. IOWA vs IOWA STATE 125: Grice dec Cruz 3-0 Clones Grice: R16 Cruz: 1-2 133: Ayala dec E. Frost 3-3 E. Frost: AA (top 6) Ayala: AA (top 6) 141: Block dec. J. Frost 6-3 Hawks (I think this as much of a toss us as it gets) J. Frost: R16 Block: R16 149: Echemendia dec Parco 6-6 (I wouldn't fight you if you have Parco here. I just really liked what I saw from Echemendia at NCAAs and expect him to progress moving up a weight). Echemendia: AA (top 6) Parco: AA (6-8) 157: Teemer dec Johnson 9-6 Hawks (I think this is a toss up honestly, but I'll go with the returning runner-up) Johnson: AA (top 6) Teemer: AA (top 4) 165: Caliendo tech Rojas/Riggins 14-6 Hawks Rojas/Riggins: 1-2 Caliendo: AA (top 4) 174: Brands tech Gaitan/Riggins 19-6 Hawks Gaitan/Riggins: R16 Brands: AA (top 6) 184: Arnold dec Bockman 22-6 Hawks Bockman: R16 Arnold: AA (6-8) 197: Buchanan dec Carroll 25-6 Hawks Carroll: AA (6-8) Buchanan: AA (top 4) 285: Yonger dec Keuter 25-9 Hawks Yonger: AA (top 4) Keuter: R12 Hawks heavy favorites in dual format and NCAA tournament format. Hawks have 7 AA's, Clones have 5 AA's. Clones do have a good bonus point getter in Yonger, but I don't think it's enough. I think it comes down to Pokes/Hawks for 2nd & 3rd.
Mr. PeanutButter Posted August 28 Posted August 28 I don't think we see Teemer or Buchanan first semester. If so, I unfortunately have a hard time seeing the Hawks pull through against ISU
ionel Posted August 28 Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Winners Circle said: Dual predictions in bullet points, NCAA predictions in sub bullet points. IOWA vs OSU 125: Spratley md Cruz 4-0 Pokes Spratley: AA (top 6) Cruz: 1-2 133: Ayala md Witcraft 4-4 Witcraft: 1-2 Ayala: AA (top 6) 141: Hughes dec Block 7-4 Pokes (I wouldn't fight you if you had Block by dec) Hughes: R12 Block: R16 149: Parco dec Jamison 7-7 Jamison: R16 Parco: AA (6-8) 157: Teemer dec Fish/Travis 10-7 Hawks Fish/Travis AA (6-8) Teemer: AA (top 4) 165: Caliendo dec Amine 13-7 Hawks (But I wouldn't be surprised if a change of scenery brings out the old Amine and he pulls the upset) Amine: AA (top 6) Caliendo: AA (top 4) 174: Brands dec Hamiti 16-7 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hamiti by dec here though) Hamiti: AA (top 6) Brands: AA (top 6) 184: Plott dec Arnold 16-10 Hawks Plott: AA (top 3) Arnold: AA (6-8) 197: Buchanan dec Surber/Merrill 19-10 Hawks Surber/Merrill: R12 Buchanan: AA (top 4) 285: Hendrickson dec Keuter 19-13 Hawks (I wouldn't fight you if you had Hendrickson bonus points here) Hendrickson: AA (top 3) Keuter: R12 Close dual but I think we can all agree Hawks would be favored. NCAA tournament is interesting. Pokes have 6 AA's, Hawks have 7. Pokes have big bonus points from Hendrickson and Plott. I'd give the edge to the Pokes. But if Ayala transfers to OSU and Hamiti beats Brands (myself and 3 Iowa CC runners are betting on Hamiti) then the score flips. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
Winners Circle Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 15 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: I don't think we see Teemer or Buchanan first semester. If so, I unfortunately have a hard time seeing the Hawks pull through against ISU Good point. In that case you take 6 away from the Hawks and give 6 to the Clones. That makes it 19-12. Even if both Carroll and Johnson both got pins, it's still 19-18 Hawks.
Winners Circle Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 8 minutes ago, ionel said: But if Ayala transfers to OSU and Hamiti beats Brands (myself and 3 Iowa CC runners are betting on Hamiti) then the score flips. Does Ayala to OSU actually have any legs? I kind of assumed that was just silly message board rumors. He seems like a Hawk through and through. I don't hate the Hamiti over Brands pick. Especially with DT in his corner. I think his results will improve tenfold. But I'm taking the wait-and-see approach on him.
ionel Posted August 28 Posted August 28 19 minutes ago, Winners Circle said: Does Ayala to OSU actually have any legs? I kind of assumed that was just silly message board rumors. He seems like a Hawk through and through. I don't hate the Hamiti over Brands pick. Especially with DT in his corner. I think his results will improve tenfold. But I'm taking the wait-and-see approach on him. Didn't Gilman seem like a Hawk forever? We are living in a new and strange world. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
PortaJohn Posted August 28 Posted August 28 31 minutes ago, ionel said: But if Ayala transfers to OSU and Hamiti beats Brands (myself and 3 Iowa CC runners are betting on Hamiti) then the score flips. 21 minutes ago, Winners Circle said: Does Ayala to OSU actually have any legs? I kind of assumed that was just silly message board rumors. He seems like a Hawk through and through. I don't hate the Hamiti over Brands pick. Especially with DT in his corner. I think his results will improve tenfold. But I'm taking the wait-and-see approach on him. Add me to the Hamiti over Brands team. Winners, solid breakdown 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
Winners Circle Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 1 minute ago, ionel said: Didn't Gilman seem like a Hawk forever? We are living in a new and strange world. Fair point. I just didn't know if there had been rumors about Ayala from actual credible sources.
ionel Posted August 28 Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Winners Circle said: Fair point. I just didn't know if there had been rumors about Ayala from actual credible sources. Yeah I dont know that its credible but it makes a lot of sense. With Gilman, Fix & RBY to train with and OSU appears to need a 133, Witcraft is what he is, looks like a struggle for Hughes to get there and is that really DT's style. BTW I didn't realize there are 2 Hamiti on the roster. Have I just not been paying attention or is @flyingcement holding back on info? 1 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
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