PSU vs Edinboro

[lightweight]

Just tuned in on BTN+.  Is no one else watching this?  Starocci was rolling up some unranked guy on his way to a tech fall and tweaked his knee and had to be helped off the mat.

 

 

[lightweight]

No doubt there will be Monday morning quarterbacks asking why the starters weren't rested for this match, but in this case he essentially did it to himself.  

Truax up now at 184.  

[lightweight]

Truax with the TF

[lightweight]

Brooks now out there now against Jack Kilner

[CHROMEBIRD]

8 minutes ago, lightweight said:

Just tuned in on BTN+.  Is no one else watching this?  Starocci was rolling up some unranked guy on his way to a tech fall and tweaked his knee and had to be helped off the mat.

 

 

Same knee as last year?

[lightweight]

Just now, CHROMEBIRD said:

Same knee as last year?

Don't remember, have to rewind after the live feed is over.

Which knee did he hurt last year?

[lightweight]

Brooks gets the TF, blows kisses to the PSU crowd.

Edited February 25 by lightweight

[lightweight]

Kerk now up at heavyweight.

[lightweight]

Kerk cradles in the first period for the fall.

[lightweight]

55-0.  Third shutout for PSU this season.

[lightweight]

17 minutes ago, lightweight said:

Don't remember, have to rewind after the live feed is over.

Which knee did he hurt last year?

Just watched the replay.  It is his right knee.

[lightweight]

From the Nittany Sports site:

https://nittanysportsnow.com/2024/02/penn-state-wrestling-star-carter-starocci-injured/

(with video)

Edited February 25 by lightweight

[Truzzcat]

how many matches do you need for an at large?

[Wrestleknownothing]

9 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

how many matches do you need for an at large?

You need two of three: 

- 70% win %

- Top 33 Coaches' Rank

- Top 33 RPI

And participate in the conf tournie. 

He has the first two and can inj def ala Nolf at the conf tournie.

[Truzzcat]

6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You need two of three: 

- 70% win %

- Top 33 Coaches' Rank

- Top 33 RPI

And participate in the conf tournie. 

He has the first two and can inj def ala Nolf at the conf tournie.

awesome thank you hopefully hes good to go but having 3 weeks hopefully he can heal up a bit id still take a 70% Carter against the field.

[lightweight]

13 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

awesome thank you hopefully hes good to go but having 3 weeks hopefully he can heal up a bit id still take a 70% Carter against the field.

Yes.  And we've seen guys wrap up a knee and go, e.g. Spencer Lee on multiple occasions.  

[BigRedFan]

11 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You need two of three: 

- 70% win %

- Top 33 Coaches' Rank

- Top 33 RPI

And participate in the conf tournie. 

He has the first two and can inj def ala Nolf at the conf tournie.

Not quite.  He has to wrestle two matches at the conference tournament to qualify for an at-large bid.  Can't just walk on, MFF, and walk off.  Those days are gone.  At least, that's how I sorta understand it!

[Truzzcat]

not that seeding is very relevant for him but I guess it could be if hes really banged up, I wonder how you seed him at 12- (whatever to med forfeits count as).

[CHROMEBIRD]

I hope Starocci's okay. It would also be pretty crazy if Edinboro is the team that stops PSU from winning another title.

[Truzzcat]

1 minute ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

I hope Starocci's okay. It would also be pretty crazy if Edinboro is the team that stops PSU from winning another title.

hope he is ok as well even not being a PSU fan I think TB could still low AA but definitely nets enough points to keep them well ahead of everyone else barring anything insane.

[Pinnacle]

Carter can wear a Nolf like knee brace and wrestle on one leg and beat 80 to 90 percent of the field.

[CHROMEBIRD]

39 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

Carter can wear a Nolf like knee brace and wrestle on one leg and beat 80 to 90 percent of the field.

I wonder if Starocci is kicking himself (with his good leg) for not competing at Senior Nationals in December. At least I don't think he was there. He famously said last season that college wrestling is fun and all, but he wants to focus on bigger things like winning a World/Olympic title. If he had competed at Seniors and placed in the top 5 he could sit out the rest of the college season and key in on being ready for trials, IF that's what's best for him.

Now he's either going to have to win his fourth college title or the last chance qualifier less than 2 weeks after NCAAs while managing his descent to 74kg, just to make it to the challenge tournament.

[lightweight]

31 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

I wonder if Starocci is kicking himself (with his good leg) for not competing at Senior Nationals in December. At least I don't think he was there. He famously said last season that college wrestling is fun and all, but he wants to focus on bigger things like winning a World/Olympic title. If he had competed at Seniors and placed in the top 5 he could sit out the rest of the college season and key in on being ready for trials, IF that's what's best for him.

Now he's either going to have to win his fourth college title or the last chance qualifier less than 2 weeks after NCAAs while managing his descent to 74kg, just to make it to the challenge tournament.

I think mostly that was just PR-speak, and that winning an NCAA title would be pretty special to him.

 

But a big thumbs up on the 'kicking himself' line...

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Not quite.  He has to wrestle two matches at the conference tournament to qualify for an at-large bid.  Can't just walk on, MFF, and walk off.  Those days are gone.  At least, that's how I sorta understand it!

Correct,you must participate in two matches. That is why you inj default instead of med forfeit. Inj default counts as participating in the match and doesn't stop you from wrestling the next match. Step on the mat, take the inj default, head to the consol bracket, step on the mat again, take the second inj default.

Edited February 26 by Wrestleknownothing

[lu_alum]

4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You need two of three: 

- 70% win %

- Top 33 Coaches' Rank

- Top 33 RPI

And participate in the conf tournie. 

He has the first two and can inj def ala Nolf at the conf tournie.

It's more than those four parameters. There are six parameters AND you must actually wrestle two bouts at the qualifying tourney.

Quoted jdalu75 from the Lehigh forum.  He does a nice job of summarizing the NCAA Pre-Championships Manual:

Wrestlers failing to win the pre-allocated spots at the conference tournaments have a shot at the at-large berths. There are at least four for each weight class and there have been as many as seven. This is messy. After the conference tournaments the NCAA updates winning percentages and the CP and RPI rankings. Wrestlers need to meet two or more of the following in order just to be considered for an at-large:

● .700 Win %
● Top 33 RPI
● Top 33 CR
● .700 winning percentage against all competition 
● One win against a wrestler receiving an earned position (pre-allocated) 
● Qualifying event placement one below number of pre-allocated spots

New this year: they also have to wrestle at least two bouts in the conference tournament.

All the wrestlers in a weight class who pass that test are then ranked against each other, using these criteria:

● Head-to-head competition — 25%
● Quality wins — 20%
● Qualifying event placement — 15%
● Results against common opponents — 10%
● RPI — 10%
● Coaches rankings — 10%
● Win percentage — 10%