Le duke Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I think people cooled on him when Ferrari dismantled him. He looked pretty solid against Will Henckel at Who's #1 though..I’d bet that Ferrari weighed 8-10lbs more than him when they stepped on the mat.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Le duke said: I’d bet that Ferrari weighed 8-10lbs more than him when they stepped on the mat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That’s a possibility but he still got smashed in that match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Le duke said: I’d bet that Ferrari weighed 8-10lbs more than him when they stepped on the mat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Maybe, but what about when they stepped on the scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Le duke said: Because Ryder is spending his senior year at M2/NLWC and will have as much time at PSU as Barr before Starocci leaves. I see the lineup at 157-184 in two years time as: 157: Haines/Sealey 165: Sealey/Haines 174: Messenbrink 184: Ryder/Barr Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Messenbrink 174? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Le duke said: Because Ryder is spending his senior year at M2/NLWC and will have as much time at PSU as Barr before Starocci leaves. I see the lineup at 157-184 in two years time as: 157: Haines/Sealey 165: Sealey/Haines 174: Messenbrink 184: Ryder/Barr Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In two years this is what I want... 125 - Davis 133 - Nagao 141 - Lilledahl 149 - SVN 157 - Kasak 165 - Messenbring 174 - Facundo 184 - Barr 197 - Mirasola 285 - Mirasola "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 In two years this is what I want... 125 - Davis 133 - Nagao 141 - Lilledahl 149 - SVN 157 - Kasak 165 - Messenbring 174 - Facundo 184 - Barr 197 - Mirasola 285 - MirasolaYou think Haines and Sealey get bumped out of the lineup?I wish Kasak would take a GS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Messenbrink 174?He’s a string bean 74kg right now. I think he could pack on some meat and be a BIG 74kg in 2028.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Just now, Le duke said: You think Haines and Sealey get bumped out of the lineup? I wish Kasak would take a GS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Crap I knew I missed Haines. I think Haines takes whatever weight he wants, 165 or 174. I couldn't pick which weight. I don't see it with Sealey. I think he is a 157lber and I think Kasak will end up being better than him. Kasak could end up dropping to 149 after SVN and then Sealey is in at 157. I didn't mean to forget Haines. I think he takes whatever weight he ends up wanting there and I am not going to put Messenbrink above Facundo until I see him in the lineup. So if Haines were to 'choose' 174 then I would say Facundo at 165. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Le duke said: You think Haines and Sealey get bumped out of the lineup? I wish Kasak would take a GS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Also, Kasak as GS would allow him to come in right after SVN. I just am not sold on Sealey. Which also goes a long way towards my concerns with Ryder, being as he just beat Ryder last year down at 152, correct? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, nhs67 said: In two years this is what I want... 125 - Davis 133 - Nagao 141 - Lilledahl 149 - SVN 157 - Kasak 165 - Messenbring 174 - Facundo 184 - Barr 197 - Mirasola 285 - Mirasola I can't see Facundo starting and Haines sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I can't see Facundo starting and Haines sitting. You don't read good, do you? I already replied to that and agreed with @Le dukeon the matter above. Try more hard. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, Le duke said: He’s a string bean 74kg right now. I think he could pack on some meat and be a BIG 74kg in 2028. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Maybe, but I have heard that 157 isn't out of the question. If true, a BIG 174 is a long ways away from 157. Also, will it be unfair to his opponents if he is a BIG 174 and has a weight advantage when they wrestle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Maybe, but I have heard that 157 isn't out of the question. If true, a BIG 174 is a long ways away from 157. Also, will it be unfair to his opponents if he is a BIG 174 and has a weight advantage when they wrestle? 74kg for freestyle not 174lb for folk... 74kg = 163lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gus said: 74kg for freestyle not 174lb for folk... 74kg = 163lbs Oh, I'm aware. Please reference the original post I was responding to. But yes, I also see what you are referring to. I just don't see a guy who is being talked about at 157 being a 174 in the near future. Yes, it can happen. Edited September 7, 2023 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Oh, I'm aware. Please reference the original post I was responding to. But yes, I also see what you are referring to. I just don't see a guy who is being talked about at 157 being a 174 in the near future. Yes, it can happen.Again, I said in two years. I don’t think it’s impossible for him to put on enough good weight to not get completely manhandled by other 174s and be able to cut down to 163 and wreck those guys in two years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Le duke said: Again, I said in two years. I don’t think it’s impossible for him to put on enough good weight to not get completely manhandled by other 174s and be able to cut down to 163 and wreck those guys in two years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Definitely not impossible (look at Nickal), but probably unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Carlin Burnt Hills-Ballston Lake, New York Class of 2025 Committed to Penn Projected Weight: 149, 157
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