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I think people cooled on him when Ferrari dismantled him. He looked pretty solid against Will Henckel at Who's #1 though..

I’d bet that Ferrari weighed 8-10lbs more than him when they stepped on the mat.


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27 minutes ago, Le duke said:


I’d bet that Ferrari weighed 8-10lbs more than him when they stepped on the mat.


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That’s a possibility but he still got smashed in that match. 

Posted
11 hours ago, Le duke said:


Because Ryder is spending his senior year at M2/NLWC and will have as much time at PSU as Barr before Starocci leaves.

I see the lineup at 157-184 in two years time as:

157: Haines/Sealey
165: Sealey/Haines
174: Messenbrink
184: Ryder/Barr


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Messenbrink 174?

Posted
11 hours ago, Le duke said:


Because Ryder is spending his senior year at M2/NLWC and will have as much time at PSU as Barr before Starocci leaves.

I see the lineup at 157-184 in two years time as:

157: Haines/Sealey
165: Sealey/Haines
174: Messenbrink
184: Ryder/Barr


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In two years this is what I want...

125 - Davis

133 - Nagao

141 - Lilledahl

149 - SVN

157 - Kasak

165 - Messenbring

174 - Facundo

184 - Barr

197 - Mirasola

285 - Mirasola

"I know actually nothing.  It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me

 

 

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In two years this is what I want...
125 - Davis
133 - Nagao
141 - Lilledahl
149 - SVN
157 - Kasak
165 - Messenbring
174 - Facundo
184 - Barr
197 - Mirasola
285 - Mirasola

You think Haines and Sealey get bumped out of the lineup?

I wish Kasak would take a GS.


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Just now, Le duke said:


You think Haines and Sealey get bumped out of the lineup?

I wish Kasak would take a GS.


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Crap I knew I missed Haines.  I think Haines takes whatever weight he wants, 165 or 174.  I couldn't pick which weight.

I don't see it with Sealey.  I think he is a 157lber and I think Kasak will end up being better than him.  Kasak could end up dropping to 149 after SVN and then Sealey is in at 157.

I didn't mean to forget Haines.  I think he takes whatever weight he ends up wanting there and I am not going to put Messenbrink above Facundo until I see him in the lineup.  So if Haines were to 'choose' 174 then I would say Facundo at 165.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Le duke said:


You think Haines and Sealey get bumped out of the lineup?

I wish Kasak would take a GS.


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Also, Kasak as GS would allow him to come in right after SVN.  I just am not sold on Sealey.  Which also goes a long way towards my concerns with Ryder, being as he just beat Ryder last year down at 152, correct?

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17 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

In two years this is what I want...

125 - Davis

133 - Nagao

141 - Lilledahl

149 - SVN

157 - Kasak

165 - Messenbring

174 - Facundo

184 - Barr

197 - Mirasola

285 - Mirasola

I can't see Facundo starting and Haines sitting.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

I can't see Facundo starting and Haines sitting.

You don't read good, do you?

I already replied to that and agreed with @Le dukeon the matter above.

Try more hard.

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Posted
42 minutes ago, Le duke said:


He’s a string bean 74kg right now.

I think he could pack on some meat and be a BIG 74kg in 2028.


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Maybe, but I have heard that 157 isn't out of the question.  If true, a BIG 174 is a long ways away from 157.  

Also, will it be unfair to his opponents if he is a BIG 174 and has a weight advantage when they wrestle?

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5 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Maybe, but I have heard that 157 isn't out of the question.  If true, a BIG 174 is a long ways away from 157.  

Also, will it be unfair to his opponents if he is a BIG 174 and has a weight advantage when they wrestle?

74kg for freestyle not 174lb for folk... 74kg = 163lbs 

Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Gus said:

74kg for freestyle not 174lb for folk... 74kg = 163lbs 

Oh, I'm aware. Please reference the original post I was responding to.

But yes, I also see what you are referring to.  I just don't see a guy who is being talked about at 157 being a 174 in the near future.  Yes, it can happen.

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Oh, I'm aware. Please reference the original post I was responding to.
But yes, I also see what you are referring to.  I just don't see a guy who is being talked about at 157 being a 174 in the near future.  Yes, it can happen.

Again, I said in two years. I don’t think it’s impossible for him to put on enough good weight to not get completely manhandled by other 174s and be able to cut down to 163 and wreck those guys in two years.


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8 minutes ago, Le duke said:


Again, I said in two years. I don’t think it’s impossible for him to put on enough good weight to not get completely manhandled by other 174s and be able to cut down to 163 and wreck those guys in two years.


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Definitely not impossible (look at Nickal), but probably unlikely.

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