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6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Thanks for proving your stupidity.  No state has charged Fauci.  That indicates they don’t think they could actually convict him of anything 

So that’s why Trump never served any time. Got it. 

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Already addressed, and I even predicted what you’d say before you said it.  lol at you still saying it though, kudos.  The clear and obvious weaponization of the DOJ is why is he was pardoned.  You can argue that Biden started it if you’d like, that doesn’t change the clear and obvious fact that it is currently being weaponized.

 

 

So you’re saying the DOJ controls the jury and judge?  He took the fifth because he knew he’d perjure himself. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

So you’re saying the DOJ controls the jury and judge?  He took the fifth because he knew he’d perjure himself. 

He knows they’d try to charge him regardless of what he said.  They indicted a guy for taking a picture of seashells for chrissakes.  Yes Fauci would surely win, but no need to put yourself through that.

Posted
14 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Thanks for proving your stupidity.  No state has charged Fauci.  That indicates they don’t think they could actually convict him of anything 

Because he was pardoned ?

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

He knows they’d try to charge him regardless of what he said.  They indicted a guy for taking a picture of seashells for chrissakes.  Yes Fauci would surely win, but no need to put yourself through that.

Omg what a stupid response.  He’s guilty or he wouldn’t need to have been pardoned or take the fifth.  His diary pretty much says he loves the spotlight. Couldn’t get enough of it.   If he was innocent he would be all over going to trial.   

Edited by JimmySpeaks

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Posted

He pleaded the 5th to keep from having perjury charges levelled against him.   He is safe as long as he says nothing.   He better not go on any interviews or he may just do it there anyway.  

mspart

Posted
46 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Omg what a stupid response.  He’s guilty or he wouldn’t need to have been pardoned or take the fifth.  His diary pretty much says he loves the spotlight. Couldn’t get enough of it.   If he was innocent he would be all over going to trial.   

So if you have been pardoned or take the fifth, you are guilty?

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

So if you have been pardoned or take the fifth, you are guilty?

You’re not allowed to take the fifth for something you’ve been pardoned from.   
from what I understand.  
 

You can’t incriminate yourself from something your are immunize from unless your a political trash bag of course 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

So if you have been pardoned or take the fifth, you are guilty?

So if you have been pardoned or take the fifth you are not guilty? 
 

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Posted

Plus, The burden of proof is always on the prosecution.  If you’re truly innocent it’s very hard to be convicted.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

So if you have been pardoned or take the fifth you are not guilty? 
 

Of course not.  But it doesn’t mean you’re guilty.  If you think that, you might want to look up some of the people that have pled the fifth.  Starting with the current president…

Posted
9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Of course not.  But it doesn’t mean you’re guilty.  If you think that, you might want to look up some of the people that have pled the fifth.  Starting with the current president…

Show me where I said it did. I’ll wait. 

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Posted
Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

Show me where I said it did. I’ll wait. 

 

2 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

He’s guilty or he wouldn’t need to have been pardoned or take the fifth.  

…

Posted
2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 

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2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 

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I said he’s guilty.  And the pardon and fifth wouldn’t be needed if he wasn’t. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 

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He would have perjured himself and he knows it.  Which I’ve already said but you ignored. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

 

I said he’s guilty.  And the pardon and fifth wouldn’t be needed if he wasn’t. 

Oh ok so being pardoned or pleading the fifth just means they’re guilty when JimmySpeaks says so.

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

He would have perjured himself and he knows it.  Which I’ve already said but you ignored. 

Lol what do you mean I ignored?  I predicted what you were going to say before you said it.  And explained why it was a stupid argument.

Posted
Just now, 1032004 said:

Oh ok so being pardoned or pleading the fifth just means they’re guilty when JimmySpeaks says so.

Lol what do you mean I ignored?  I predicted what you were going to say before you said it.  And explained why it was a stupid argument.

In his case yep.  Not everyone.  Try keep up. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Oh ok so being pardoned or pleading the fifth just means they’re guilty when JimmySpeaks says so.

Lol what do you mean I ignored?  I predicted what you were going to say before you said it.  And explained why it was a stupid argument.

You already knew what I’d say because it’s a fact 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

In his case yep.  Not everyone.  Try keep up. 

Did you read his diary?  Hardly the words of an honest man. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, mspart said:

 

If you answer a question under oath with anything of substance like 'Yes Senator, the floor is yellow' you have blown your position of pleading the 5th.   Makes no sense to me.   I would think it would have to do with anything about the investigation, not the color of the carpet or whatever.   I don't remember who did this but that is what they were trying to do to Fauci and he pleaded the 5th on the carpet color question.   Because if he says what color he sees, he is testifying and waived his 5th amendment right.   That's a ticky tack thing that I don't understand, but it happened some time ago I remember.  

mspart

 

5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

The “he said you won’t get Covid if you get the shot!” claim is so disingenuous.   Other people said that, I think Fauci said it once, he said probably hundreds of times that it was “95% effective”

 

5 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You think Fauci said it once?  Well then it must be a fact. 🤦‍♂️ 

To my knowledge, he only said it that definitively once.   If you have a link to other times he did, I’d be happy to admit I was wrong.

In fact, in the very same interview with the often quoted line (bolded below), he even acknowledged multiple times, including literally 2 sentences later, that the vaccinated can get infected.

https://www.ms.now/transcript/transcript-all-chris-hayes-5-17-21-n1267740

 

It`s great to have you back Dr. Fauci. Let`s start — I`m going to talk about the masking but let`s start where we just left off with the Yankees because I think it`s probably the first and most high-profile outbreak amongst folks that are vaccinated we`ve had, right? We`re talking about an environment where people have gotten the vaccination. What is your takeaway? What do you see when you look at this in terms of what it means for other people who are vaccinated, but maybe still nervous about exposure?

ANTHONY FAUCI, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: Well, you know, it`s important to point out, Chris, that these are certainly breakthrough infections. Breakthrough infections mean, you have been vaccinated, but you still get infected. But the critical point is that I think seven out of eight or eight out of nine of them had no symptoms at all, which means it is very likely that the level of virus in their nasal pharynx is low, and they won`t transmit it.

So, although you don`t like to see breakthroughs, the fact is, this is one of the encouraging aspects about the efficacy of the vaccine. It protect you completely against infection. If you do get infected, the chances are that you`re going to be without symptoms, and the chances are very likely that you`ll not be able to transmit it to other people.

So, again, you don`t like to see breakthroughs, but to me, this is not something that`s a shocker to me at all.

HAYES: So, that — I mean, look, we`re talking about large numbers, right. So, when you`re running things that iteratively large numbers, you`re going to have breakthrough infections, right. So, something is 95 percent of, you know, effective. We`ve got millions of people in this country where you get breakthrough infections.

But this relates, I think, to the CDC mass guidance, right? So, I guess the first question is, just — this is just a point of information. What did you know about that guidance? What were you communicated by the CDC in terms of the timeline for when you found it out, and then had to communicate it to Americans?

FAUCI: Well, to be honest with you, Chris, I found out about it a couple of hours before it was announced. But the science behind it, I mean, obviously, there`s discussion and concern about the abruptness of the announcement and all that, but the science behind it, the fact that we know now that these vaccines are highly, highly effective, number one.

Number two, they`re really, really good against variants. I mean, the predominant variant in our country is the 117, the one that originated the U.K., it protects very well against that. And the other thing is that, and this relates to the New York Yankees situation, is that we`re learning now with recent studies, that even if you do get a breakthrough infection, when you`re vaccinated, the chances of you are transmitting it to someone else is exceedingly low.

So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected.

There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event. So, the bottom line trust is good news. And in many respects, it really is a big, you know, endorsement for why people should be getting vaccinated.

 

Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You already knew what I’d say because it’s a fact 

Correct, it’s a fact that the DOJ is being weaponized, so it was the correct decision for him to plead the fifth, even if he didn’t contradict anything he had said previously.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 

 

To my knowledge, he only said it that definitively once.   If you have a link to other times he did, I’d be happy to admit I was wrong.

In fact, in the very same interview with the often quoted line (bolded below), he even acknowledged multiple times, including literally 2 sentences later, that the vaccinated can get infected.

https://www.ms.now/transcript/transcript-all-chris-hayes-5-17-21-n1267740

 

 

It`s great to have you back Dr. Fauci. Let`s start — I`m going to talk about the masking but let`s start where we just left off with the Yankees because I think it`s probably the first and most high-profile outbreak amongst folks that are vaccinated we`ve had, right? We`re talking about an environment where people have gotten the vaccination. What is your takeaway? What do you see when you look at this in terms of what it means for other people who are vaccinated, but maybe still nervous about exposure?

ANTHONY FAUCI, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: Well, you know, it`s important to point out, Chris, that these are certainly breakthrough infections. Breakthrough infections mean, you have been vaccinated, but you still get infected. But the critical point is that I think seven out of eight or eight out of nine of them had no symptoms at all, which means it is very likely that the level of virus in their nasal pharynx is low, and they won`t transmit it.

So, although you don`t like to see breakthroughs, the fact is, this is one of the encouraging aspects about the efficacy of the vaccine. It protect you completely against infection. If you do get infected, the chances are that you`re going to be without symptoms, and the chances are very likely that you`ll not be able to transmit it to other people.

So, again, you don`t like to see breakthroughs, but to me, this is not something that`s a shocker to me at all.

HAYES: So, that — I mean, look, we`re talking about large numbers, right. So, when you`re running things that iteratively large numbers, you`re going to have breakthrough infections, right. So, something is 95 percent of, you know, effective. We`ve got millions of people in this country where you get breakthrough infections.

But this relates, I think, to the CDC mass guidance, right? So, I guess the first question is, just — this is just a point of information. What did you know about that guidance? What were you communicated by the CDC in terms of the timeline for when you found it out, and then had to communicate it to Americans?

FAUCI: Well, to be honest with you, Chris, I found out about it a couple of hours before it was announced. But the science behind it, I mean, obviously, there`s discussion and concern about the abruptness of the announcement and all that, but the science behind it, the fact that we know now that these vaccines are highly, highly effective, number one.

Number two, they`re really, really good against variants. I mean, the predominant variant in our country is the 117, the one that originated the U.K., it protects very well against that. And the other thing is that, and this relates to the New York Yankees situation, is that we`re learning now with recent studies, that even if you do get a breakthrough infection, when you`re vaccinated, the chances of you are transmitting it to someone else is exceedingly low.

So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected.

There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event. So, the bottom line trust is good news. And in many respects, it really is a big, you know, endorsement for why people should be getting vaccinated.

 

You made the claim. Prove it 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Correct, it’s a fact that the DOJ is being weaponized, so it was the correct decision for him to plead the fifth, even if he didn’t contradict anything he had said previously.

Prove that the DOJ is being weaponized. Remember opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. 

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 

 

To my knowledge, he only said it that definitively once.   If you have a link to other times he did, I’d be happy to admit I was wrong.

In fact, in the very same interview with the often quoted line (bolded below), he even acknowledged multiple times, including literally 2 sentences later, that the vaccinated can get infected.

https://www.ms.now/transcript/transcript-all-chris-hayes-5-17-21-n1267740

 

 

It`s great to have you back Dr. Fauci. Let`s start — I`m going to talk about the masking but let`s start where we just left off with the Yankees because I think it`s probably the first and most high-profile outbreak amongst folks that are vaccinated we`ve had, right? We`re talking about an environment where people have gotten the vaccination. What is your takeaway? What do you see when you look at this in terms of what it means for other people who are vaccinated, but maybe still nervous about exposure?

ANTHONY FAUCI, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: Well, you know, it`s important to point out, Chris, that these are certainly breakthrough infections. Breakthrough infections mean, you have been vaccinated, but you still get infected. But the critical point is that I think seven out of eight or eight out of nine of them had no symptoms at all, which means it is very likely that the level of virus in their nasal pharynx is low, and they won`t transmit it.

So, although you don`t like to see breakthroughs, the fact is, this is one of the encouraging aspects about the efficacy of the vaccine. It protect you completely against infection. If you do get infected, the chances are that you`re going to be without symptoms, and the chances are very likely that you`ll not be able to transmit it to other people.

So, again, you don`t like to see breakthroughs, but to me, this is not something that`s a shocker to me at all.

HAYES: So, that — I mean, look, we`re talking about large numbers, right. So, when you`re running things that iteratively large numbers, you`re going to have breakthrough infections, right. So, something is 95 percent of, you know, effective. We`ve got millions of people in this country where you get breakthrough infections.

But this relates, I think, to the CDC mass guidance, right? So, I guess the first question is, just — this is just a point of information. What did you know about that guidance? What were you communicated by the CDC in terms of the timeline for when you found it out, and then had to communicate it to Americans?

FAUCI: Well, to be honest with you, Chris, I found out about it a couple of hours before it was announced. But the science behind it, I mean, obviously, there`s discussion and concern about the abruptness of the announcement and all that, but the science behind it, the fact that we know now that these vaccines are highly, highly effective, number one.

Number two, they`re really, really good against variants. I mean, the predominant variant in our country is the 117, the one that originated the U.K., it protects very well against that. And the other thing is that, and this relates to the New York Yankees situation, is that we`re learning now with recent studies, that even if you do get a breakthrough infection, when you`re vaccinated, the chances of you are transmitting it to someone else is exceedingly low.

So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected.

There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event. So, the bottom line trust is good news. And in many respects, it really is a big, you know, endorsement for why people should be getting vaccinated.

 

Why on earth does it matter to know many times that he lied to all of us Americans about something that impacted Americans severely.  Lying to us about it is lying to us about it.   He lied to all of us.   

I only killed one person …..  so don’t prosecute me for murder 

Edited by Caveira
Posted
7 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Correct, it’s a fact that the DOJ is being weaponized, so it was the correct decision for him to plead the fifth, even if he didn’t contradict anything he had said previously.

Quick question, who subpoenaed Fauci?  The DOJ? 

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