Caveira Posted June 18 Posted June 18 6 minutes ago, 1032004 said: The guy who spilled the beans, Tycen Proper, appears to be. Haven’t seen much info on the rest. They’re just monsters boss. And an illegal alien monster who should have been deported. there is no clear evidence that any of the five charged suspects were left or right wing radicals. The descriptions from the FBI, DOJ, and court documents point more toward a mix of: Anti-government extremism Accelerationism (wanting society to collapse and be rebuilt) Conspiracy theories involving elites, Epstein, and government corruption Strong antisemitic beliefs among some participants The group doesn't fit neatly into a traditional conservative or MAGA category either. According to investigators, some members discussed targeting politicians they believed were influenced by pro-Israel lobbying groups, hated "capitalist elites" and billionaires, and believed the country needed to be torn down and rebuilt. So the best description from the evidence available right now is: Not obviously left-wing. Not obviously right-wing. More like an accelerationist, anti-government extremist network with a mixture of conspiratorial, antisemitic, and anti-establishment themes.
1032004 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 7 minutes ago, Caveira said: Accelerationism (wanting society to collapse and be rebuilt) More like an accelerationist Militant accelerationism, also called neo-fascist accelerationism, far-right accelerationism, neo-Nazi accelerationism, or simply accelerationism, is a far-right and white supremacist ideology which aims to cause societal collapse and the creation of white ethnostates by intentionally exacerbating social conflict, especially through political violence. Militant accelerationists believe that modern society is irredeemable for reasons such as liberalism and multiculturalism. As such, they promote and perform acts such as terrorism, murder, assassination, and infrastructure sabotage, with the belief that such actions will help destroy the current system and allow for the creation of a new one built on white nationalism.
Caveira Posted June 18 Posted June 18 5 minutes ago, 1032004 said: with the belief that such actions will help destroy the current system and allow for the creation of a new one built on white nationalism. A Mexican illegal alien who was the mastermind planner of this event. He wants to destroy the current system and allow the creation of a new one built on white nationalism? got it
1032004 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 8 minutes ago, Caveira said: A Mexican illegal alien who was the mastermind planner of this event. He wants to destroy the current system and allow the creation of a new one built on white nationalism? got it Well you’re the one that said that was their motivation
Caveira Posted June 18 Posted June 18 25 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Well you’re the one that said that was their motivation I said the Mexican illegal who planned this wanted to rebuild the American government and it be based on white nationalist ideologies? Interesting.
1032004 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 7 minutes ago, Caveira said: I said the Mexican illegal who planned this wanted to rebuild the American government and it be based on white nationalist ideologies? Interesting. You used the word “accelerationist” multiple times. I provided a definition for that term.
Caveira Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 1032004 said: You used the word “accelerationist” multiple times. I provided a definition for that term. Does a leftist have to believe 100% of the tenants of its ideology? does a rightist have to believe 100% of its ideology? I know you know better on everything. So tell me again how you know the illegal medical wants to rebuild America in a white nationalist ideology Edited June 18 by Caveira
1032004 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Caveira said: Does a leftist have to believe 100% of the tenants of its ideology? does a rightist have to believe 100% of its ideology? No
Caveira Posted June 18 Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, 1032004 said: No Well alrighty then. Does an accelerationist, or whatever that particular brand of crazy person is…. Have to believe in 100% of its crazy ideological ideas?
Danny Deck Posted June 18 Posted June 18 But like, left wing accelerationism exists. I think fundamentally they're mad at the world and want to see its destruction and whatever ideology you want to ascribe to them is layered on top of that fundamental motivation. They're Marlon Brando in The Wild One: "Hey Johnny, what are you rebelling against?" "Whaddaya got?"
ionel Posted June 18 Posted June 18 6 hours ago, wrestlingguy said: Tycen Proper is what I picture RV looking like. Sure ... but wasn't expecting his mom to be that patriotic. .
Caveira Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ionel said: Sure ... but wasn't expecting his mom to be that patriotic. Sure I was surprised too. Only thing I would change in the verbiage is “patriotic”. She (mom) did the right thing. Imagine the guilt she would live under if he did this successfully and she knew. how much ammo / explosives did they have? Didn’t they report that they had snipers ready for those escaping. Sounds like this could have been the deadliest attack in a long long time side note. Not holding my breath. I don’t think any lefties on here have denounced this attack… Edited June 18 by Caveira
1032004 Posted June 19 Posted June 19 49 minutes ago, Caveira said: Sure I was surprised too. Only thing I would change in the verbiage is “patriotic”. She (mom) did the right thing. Imagine the guilt she would live under if he did this successfully and she knew. how much ammo / explosives did they have? Didn’t they report that they had snipers ready for those escaping. Sounds like this could have been the deadliest attack in a long long time side note. Not holding my breath. I don’t think any lefties on here have denounced this attack… There was no attack. Yes, good job by the mom for turning him in though.
Caveira Posted June 19 Posted June 19 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: There was no attack. Yes, good job by the mom for turning him in though. Your condemnation feels as empty as your posts boss. And I honestly think you know it. But you do you.
1032004 Posted June 19 Posted June 19 1 minute ago, Caveira said: Your condemnation feels as empty as your posts boss. And I honestly think you know it. But you do you. I condemn far right extremist terrorist plots
Caveira Posted June 19 Posted June 19 7 minutes ago, 1032004 said: I condemn far right extremist terrorist plots You do you boss. Someone compared you to being as far left or worse than Rv. I’m starting to believe it 1
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