Where does Levi Haines rank among the 2x Champs?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Haines did not redshirt, which is impressive.

He went 2nd, 1st, 3rd and 1st.  Career record of 98-4.

The 4 losses were to champs Dean Hamiti, Keagan O'Toole, Austin O'Connor and a puzzling loss to All-American Vinny Zerban.

Career bonus rate of 58%

[mr.nonothingatall]

This is a good post Jimmy. 

[neweruser69]

Above Jordan Oliver but below Ben Askren.

[peanut]

He’s among the best 2x champs. Not many college wrestlers are reigning world silver medalists. 

[The Kid]

38 minutes ago, peanut said:

He’s among the best 2x champs. Not many college wrestlers are reigning world silver medalists. 

This is why he should be considered the best two time champ ( still enrolled in college). 

Very, very impressive resume 

Edited March 23 by The Kid

[jchapman]

2 minutes ago, The Kid said:

This is why he should be considered the best two time champ ( still enrolled in college). 

Very, very impressive resume 

What about Steveson?  He was an Olympic Champ while competing in college.

[RandolphTJones]

Would have a statue built for him if he wrestled at just about any other school. Overshadowed by the depth of this team last couple years. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Steveson and DT have to be the top 2x Champs

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

1. Steveson

2. DT

3. Askren

4. Levi???

[Jim L]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Steveson and DT have to be the top 2x Champs

Add Dan Gable to the list

[The Kid]

6 minutes ago, jchapman said:

What about Steveson?  He was an Olympic Champ while competing in college.

I was only taking abot the penn state guys.

Sorry for the confusion. 

 

Obviously Snyder, Steveson and Uetake were better than Haines.

[The Kid]

4 minutes ago, Jim L said:

Add Dan Gable to the list

He didn't do ut while in college. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

2 minutes ago, The Kid said:

I was only taking abot the penn state guys.

Sorry for the confusion. 

 

Obviously Snyder, Steveson and Uetake were better than Haines.

Snyder and Uetake won 3 titles so they are not on the list of 2 timers

[peanut]

John Smith and Steveson are among the very best 2xers. Off the top of my head I can’t think of other 2xers (aside from Haines) who were world-level medalists while in college. I’m guessing there are others.

Neither Dan Gable nor DT made a world-level team until they were out of college.

[BigTimeFan]

1 hour ago, peanut said:

He’s among the best 2x champs. Not many college wrestlers are reigning world silver medalists. 

JB, John Smith, Gable Steveson, Dan Gable, Randy Lewis better so far ... I doubt Levi is ever a world gold medalist or Olympic gold either 

[Hank]

haines ranks 15th

[peanut]

18 minutes ago, BigTimeFan said:

JB, John Smith, Gable Steveson, Dan Gable, Randy Lewis better so far ... I doubt Levi is ever a world gold medalist or Olympic gold either 

Dan Gable did not make a world-level team either in college or the summer after college.

JB won a world gold the summer after college. To my eye he was world-championship caliber the year he won his Hodge.

Levi is only 21 and lost in the world finals last year 3-2. I’m not sure how you can doubt he’ll ever win gold, but you’re certainly entitled to your doubts.

Edited March 23 by peanut

[HarryConnickJr]

I still might put JO above him

[BigTimeFan]

4 minutes ago, peanut said:

Dan Gable did not make a world-level team either in college or the summer after college.

JB won a world gold the summer after college. To my eye he was world-championship caliber the year he won his Hodge.

Levi is only 21 and lost in the world finals last year 3-2. I’m not sure how you can doubt he’ll ever win gold, but you’re certainly entitled to your doubts.

The US has a long history of one time world silver medalists who never medal again. It's even-money Haines never medals again. 

[Elevator]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

1. Steveson

2. DT

3. Askren

4. Levi???

Deserving of mention is Dick DiBastista, who never lost a match and was a 2x champ in the early 1940's.  Then freshman were not eligible for NCAA's and one year was cancelled due to WWII.  Lower Merion High School legend (like Kobe Bryant).  After competition served the sport as a wrestling official.  He has gone on to his reward but deserves a mention lest we think this is a new sport.

Edited March 23 by Elevator

[GV4444]

59 minutes ago, Hank said:

haines ranks 15th

I like your answer.  I just don't agree with it.  I'd like to see 8-14 please.

[The Kid]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Snyder and Uetake won 3 titles so they are not on the list of 2 timers

Yes, I was only referring to psu wrestlers that are still enrolled in their respective universities  

[The Kid]

This thread had me thinking of Jake Deichler.  Fron high school to the Olympic Team. 

[Konquest]

2x champs I would rank over Levi Haines:

-John Smith

-Jordan Burroughs

-Ben Askren

-David Taylor

-Gable Steveson

-possibly Zahid Valencia and Isaiah Martinez

There are a lot of all-timers who won 2 NCAA championships.  Taking nothing away from Haines, as he might be one of those "all-timers" that we add to this list in a couple years.

[The Kid]

1 hour ago, Konquest said:

2x champs I would rank over Levi Haines:

-John Smith

-Jordan Burroughs

-Ben Askren

-David Taylor

-Gable Steveson

-possibly Zahid Valencia and Isaiah Martinez

There are a lot of all-timers who won 2 NCAA championships.  Taking nothing away from Haines, as he might be one of those "all-timers" that we add to this list in a couple years.

As for being in college. He has more accolades than Taylor.

I don't think he will be as successful as Taylor. But, he did something Taylor could do.  Win a world medal while still in college.  Which is super impressive imo.