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It's amazing to me how the right has gone from being suspicious of the Federal Govt' smaller Government to licking the boots of ICE Agents! LOL...it's...amazing. From Ruby Ridge to now, 'nah, they don't actually NEED warrants for Misdemeanor arrests!

Here is a good one: Legal Framework: Federal Rule 4 (Arrest Warrants) Rule 4(c)(3)(A) states that upon arrest, an officer must: Inform the defendant that a warrant exists and specify the offense, and Show the physical warrant to the defendant, at the defendant’s request, as soon as practicable — not to anyone else

It literally says they don’t even need to have the warrant on them. Just have to say they have one and post struggle name the charges. do you think they are required to carry it with them at all times? also. Did the illegal demand the warrant. Or some random dude. You keep not answering that part.

Eh...if you're illiterate. What I'm saying is ICE is NOT.

Ok...lets play this game where you play the clown again. You really think for a MISTEMEANOR, you can just claim you have a warrant and not present it? Nonsense. Want to guess what being undocumented is? It's...NOT a felony. But again, just to clarify, the right now believes it's alright for LEOs to come and arrest people and they don't need to show a warrant, they can just promise you it's in their pocket and that's cool. Got it. I can't FATHOM how that could go bad.

I would argue….. If you or I got in their way we would be charged. My theory is they didn’t charge him because of his elected privilege. He should hold a press conference thanking law enforcement for removing another illegal and not charging him with anything.

You saw the start of the conflict on the video? Post plz either way. Seems like law enforcement has a ton of leeway relative to showing first. And 100% don’t have to show sir elected official rando dude shyte.

I think all scrourge is trying to say is that elected officials are above the law.

Seems to me it only got “dangerous” because they didn’t show the warrant.

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I didn’t argue that boss. I pasted like 10 ish articles in this here post.

For officer safety. Should you detain the dude first or let the mob attack everyone. Also I dunno there was a lot of commotion. During a struggle: Officers may delay physically showing the warrant until they have control of the person—reasonably so for safety . Informing someone of the warrant before cuffs is vital, but reading the full warrant or charges isn't required at that dangerous moment. Once the subject is secure (handcuffed/detained), officers may then recap the offense more formally, and read the warrant if requested. this feels like checkmate. Once you add the …. Struggle / danger law enforcement wins this argument 10 out of 10 times.

Did they inform him of the offense charged?

LOL...definitely not where the hypocrisy ends. Why'd he bring this up? Because the media "just picked this up." Despite the fact is dominated the news Cycle when it happened, the media JUST picked it up. I mean, he even argued there were SOOO many articles about it! So why did he make another thread? "The media isn't talking about it." LOL...I mean, you can't make this up! Needed a new thread because he claimed all these news sources were talking about it but also because "the media" wasn't talking about it. This is how you know they're not even thinking about their responses, they're pre-trained responses they just blurt out. Just keep blaming "the media, the media."

I didn’t hear screaming I have a warrant 50 times in most of the vids I saw. I swear I did. Shyte I believe some of y’all complained all they did was scream I have a warrant

Did they do this?

You're playing the clown. When the US pulled out, there was no longer any deal. This ALSO started because it was argued BY YOU(with you posting a link well AFTER the US pulled out) that they broke the agreement before the US pulled out. Finally, TRUMP'S State Department sad they were NOT "cheating" before the agreement. I'm not sure what the hell "Fordow" line is, but again, sure it's really clever.

Elected officials are literally some rando. He had no business involving himself in this. Law enforcement does not have to comply with any of his requests.

1. Must inform the arrestee that a warrant exists If they have the warrant, they must inform the defendant of the offense charged and the fact that an arrest warrant exists If the warrant is not physically on hand, they must still verbally inform the person of the warrant's existence and the offense charged, and—if the arrestee requests it—show it as soon as possible

And who could argue with 5 years of exhaustive discussion and with the aggrieved party having complete control of the government giving us the sum total of inarguable evidence of "something smells there "? Nobody, that's who. Not with the crushing weight of that smelly, smelly evidence.

No. He wasn't "some rando." He was an elected official. But...to clarify, two conservatives are fine with the authorities just doing the 'trust me bro' before taking people into custody. Not really conservatives anymore I guess...not sure what ideology that falls under.

mspart, you're not dumb, so don't play dumb. They need to present a warrant. It's a simple concept. One of the top officials in NYC was there trying to ensure they had a warrant and presented one and they refused. It's the MOST basic rights you are guaranteed in this country irrespective of your citizen status. So why the hell wouldn't they just...present it? Because they don't have to and they're not going to listen to anyone else, they've been given a ridiculous amount of authority. As such, they've arrested numerous American Citizens as it stands. Jesus Christ, they picked up Native American's because they were brown and looked Mexican.

There was still an agreement after 2018. But main point, they were cheating before the agreement, during the agreement and still today. Btw: what are they doing in Fordow ... playing checkers?

So what about anti-wingers? Asking for a friend.

....what is the point of posting this? If 2019 was after we puled out of our agreement with Iran...pretty sure 2025 is also AFTER we pulled out of the agreement.