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Where is this on Reddit? Is it multiple people or just some rando making claims?

Lol we went from $400 million to multiple billions.

Alvarez in 2022-2023. His last match that year was against Bloomsburg on 1/6, and yes he wrestled two matches each on 11/12 and 12/4.

See... the ills of this scourge if you will...are even touching this message board. While this 'lil guys Mom was out working, he missed out on his uncrustable and didn't even get to bed at a reasonable time in a school night! Don't worry bud, she's out grinding(literally) so she can buy you boxes and boxes of uncrustables! All the uncrustables you can eat...like you play for the Broncos!

The fact he handed over cash for a bj and not a full monty lends me to believe there perhaps is some problems at the "homestead" The biggest remaining question to the reputation hit for Kyle will be how ghetto did he go. Is he with 15 other guys mugshots with no teeth and faces of crystal meth ? Most of the stings are done on trashy sites like backpages and Craigslist, and would be incredibly dumb of Kyle to be looking there for multitude of reasons. That will become public in addition to $ amount based on when Greg Anthony got caught with an 80 dollar hooker off backpages a few years ago. (Now employed by tnt) Mr Anthony asked for sex and a bj for 80.

Random moral grandstanding, and obvious implications of the evil of human trafficking aside, it’s really not our place to impeach a man for something that is as common as the day is long. We don’t know what sort of understandings they do or don’t have in their relationship, that’s up to them. Happy relationships come in all shapes and sizes. Could it potentially be very sh1tty? Yes. In ten years time could we also be look back and say that this was as dumb as the way weed used to be prosecuted the same as heroin? Also possible. You each have your own opinions, but great athletes tend to be rather selfish. This falls in line perfectly with that. He is a jordan kobe woods level athlete, I expect equal levels of borderline sociopathy live in his brain somewhere too.

You're an a-hole for convincing me to watch this match. It was everything that is wrong with grounding and maybe one of the worst freestyle matches I have ever watched. The 4:24 sequence you mentioned only got him a step-out where he wasn't even close to actually scoring a takedown. How you linked this match as worth watching is beyond me.

Please, Illinois.

Zack Ryder's a good pickup for OKST! I went back and watched his U20 tournament and was also impressed with this Begenjov dude from Turkmenistan?!?! (don't hear that every day). Won U20s without giving up a point. His snap (fake slide by) to misdirection single @ 4:24 mark of video below is filthy! Have a look! (don't let the age-restricted thing scare you- just click "Watch on YouTube"

The research is pretty uniform that the underage/coerced women are NOT going to be found in some easily-found online ad, available by text, meeting at her hotel. It's a myth. You might get a cop, you might get a gun in your face, but actual coerced prostitutes are rare and certainly won't be found there. Federal laws criminalizing online providers have driven them offline (e.g. ID requirements), and hotel bookings are too expensive and leave a paper trail. They're apt to be on the street or secreted away in some sleazy pimp house, to the extent they exist at all. You're also moving the bar a little bit, seemingly requiring more than consent, when you refer to escorts being in an "appropriate headspace" as opposed to "sketchy." Look, they're pretty much *all* a bit sketchy, or they probably wouldn't be doing this. They're not exactly future Nobel Laureates, if you know what I mean. For some it's a need (only way to feed a kid, or a drug habit), for others they'd just rather work 5 hours in bed than 50 hours at McDonalds for the same money. But it's still consensual and they are knowingly engaging in the act. As such I can't say it's immoral to partake.

I would say he's doing a favor to the people that are being taken advantage of by not calling unless he's sure he's getting an escort that is of sound mind. In this instance he met up with a cop at a hotel room in hopes of it being an anonymous girl. That sounds like a situation where there is a high risk he could've found a girl who was coerced in some way. To be clear I am stating the environment that he chose to participate in, meeting up at a hotel room from an online ad, doesn't have a way to morally partake. I'd guess it's probably more difficult to find the escorts that are in an appropriate headspace to consent than the sketchy ones.

Mormon belief is that Jesus was a Polygamist, married to at least three women who are mentioned with him in scripture. Married & had kids - otherwise how could he have the full life experience?

Nah you're good. My point is that the term "trafficking" is often used in a more expansive way than how you cited it, in order to make it sound like all escorts are victims of some sort. They aren't. You'll see a lot of definitions of "trafficking" as some form of "traveling for the purpose of sexual exploitation," which is short for "escorts who travel." Actual forced prostitution is much less common, and generally has moved offline from the backpage/craigslist to the street/underworld. I haven't seen anything saying that Snyder's done this more than once, but unless he is traveling in those seedier circles, which seems doubtful if he's answering an online ad to meet at a hotel, it's highly unlikely he's encountered this.

Maybe he can get advice from Donald Trump - we now he pays off whores. Or Robert Kraft, the guy who owns the New England Patriots. Both rich & "successful" guys who pay for sex.

great, now i'm hungry and it's past my bedtime

Yeah, I dunno about that. If you're really tight on money, and need to take a second job as an Uber driver at nights to make sure you can pay your rent and feed your kid, would you want customers to not hire you since they don't want to "take advantage of a guy who is in a very bad spot"? Are they really doing you a favor and acting righteously if they're avoiding you for that reason? I agree with the general idea that when you text someone offering an illegal act, you never know for sure what you're going to get. (Snyder just found this out the hard way.) But I just think it's a little bit self-righteous to say a john is doing *the escort* a favor by not calling her. I'll bet she'd disagree.

He looks like someone tried to whittle a penis out of a hotdog.

I haven't read this whole thing deep enough, so apologies if this doesn't hit right. Trafficking doesn't necessarily mean going across state lines. It is all about coercion by one to force another to perform a sex act. This is the US Justice Departments definition: "Sex trafficking is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age." It sounds like this isn't his first time and it has probably been happening for a while. So while this time he wasn't paying someone that was being trafficked, chances are very high that he has done this with someone who has, intentional or not.

there are ways though. I don't know whether the guy in question followed such a path, but it's not hard to find unencumbered sex workers

Two things can be true. There can be an argument that legitimization would create a much safer environment, and also that the current environment doesn't have a way to morally partake without a high risk of taking advantage of women who are in a very bad spot.

Who are you referring to? Alvarez never wrestled for Bloomsburg and I don't see those 2 matches on his Wrestlestat profile.

Our advantage in AI alone should tell you enough.

I think we can probably agree here, for the most part. Anytime something's outlawed, it is going to attract some related criminal elements, making that corner of the world a bit more unsafe, sleazy and sketchy. And you're right that the criminalization itself, not the act, is the driver here. Your reference to "women who have no choices" is a bit strong, but if your point is that it includes a lot of women who simply have no other way to get the money that they need (e.g. to feed/house themselves or their kid), then I agree. I'm just not willing to say it's immoral to support such women. To the contrary, I think society should stop stigmatizing them for doing what they must to get by, and should legitimize it with decriminalization, registration, STD/drug testing, taxing... but I digress.

Heard he got held up at the hotel.

Man.. people who seem to be in the known for Iowa seem very pessimistic with low expectations of them coming to Iowa City. Give me the Randy brothers to OkieSt or tOSU. Will be terrible if we miss out on them… but can’t say Tom and staff didn’t put in the effort. Hopefully they do what they did for Michael Kemmerer and drive to their house and close a deal.