Hammerlock3

Is there a reason you keep saying "certified below 165" instead of "certified for 157"? Its a little conspicuous.

not that you weren't joking, but I couldn't find a brief enough clip from the movie "creep", the lead is basically giving the exact same vibes. skip to the :30 mark if your intrigued.

The most problematic thing about fix isn't that he isn't winning, its that his style is completely stale. hasnt changed in years.

Its gonna turn out that guy was Tervel in disguise, Keyser sozeing another world title out of burroughs

I don't think this forum needs a Cinnabon who doesn't understand irony.

Yeah in fairness to you my opinion of Haines is probably colored by P(su)TSD. Though he does seem like one of these Johny Hendricks types who just squashes scrambles, though guys like Perry were complete amateurs compared to what we have today.

no only yours was stupid, you should take it back.

i don't think the scrambles are gonna be that different. You've got far ankle and Churella (I appreciate askren for calling it this because he was way better at it than ryan churella)which work in freestyle. Ankle passing is very dated, we've got danger calls in folk...I think its the same....maybe different in churella situations because in folk the refs will let you wrestle a little as opposed to blowing the whistle as often as possible?

So your prediction is Facundo goes 157? He ain't going 165. A little less innuendo please.

Haines looked huge...I think 174 has been a foregone conclusion. And I think he takes the title. KOT was more active but less efficient, and for that to work out he's gonna have to score fairly early, otherwise he's just wrestling Haines' match.

not sure where i implied anything different.

I'd say that "people" can't show you who they are, only individuals can. I do think you are on to something saying PSU and Iowa are the most likely to have outlandish obnoxious fans, but that's because the success has attracted gross people like JimmyC and sense they are living vicariously through an elite institution they feel bulletproof. I would agree PSU and Iowa have more of those around, I still think its a mistake to use the information to distill a meaningful idea about the fan base.

this is just a stupid post.

I know but you understand my point that the mature perspective is that this is just "the madness of crowds" in action. Maybe he's using it, but on some level fixating on them as PSU fans is a waste of time.

well I assume you'll think its fair if I claim i used the term "looney tune" to imply something more extreme than your average idiot who is willing to boo things (which is definitely idiot behavior.)

so you think this is evidence that PSU's fan base is distinct from other fan bases in a meaningful and negative way.

I don't think the idea is that he has to turn the other cheek, it's more like he shouldn't be acting surprised that a huge fan base like PSU has a few looney tunes in it. He just posted on X something along the lines of "The best revenge is a life lived well"....isn't throwing around words like revenge a little dramatic? Of course it is. If he wants to do it to keep his edge that's fine, he's gonna get some mild call outs though.

If it wasn't for Nickal's weird unexplained disdain for JB, I would assume that Burroughs was just sort of haunted by the idea that his career would end on an upset loss and getting smack talked by an idiot. but nickal's weirdness and burrough's insistence on saying "fans, wrestlers, coaches" makes me think there is some sort of story that's not out. I bet its surprisingly boring but maybe its out there. Pyles will beat the bushes till the truth comes out. Oh wait I mean he will summarize what I said in a 20 minute video and try to kiss the butt of everyone involved at the same time.

Yeah this needs to get explained in a meaningful way. As of now I'm assuming that idiot in the stands is deep in burroughs head.

I assume the weirdness of all that is a conscious decision...if its not someone should be arrested for not intervening.

i think suriano is a broken toy at this point.

hard to underestimate the appeal of OSU with general trendiness plus gilman and fix to train with.

"the iq of marstellar knowing when to drop to 2 knees is impressive" no its not

that was the first legit slip i've seen in about 15 years