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yeah but I think Schultz and Trumble are at least toss ups, plus the campbell kids already beat him but he's now done....I hear his name a lot for a guy whose a bad seed away from not placing and not getting upset either.

One more distinction on Brooks though, I don't really mind the Allah thing, being religious implies the exclusion of all other religions by definition, so him making that comment is meaningless. However he also crowbarred "the lord" in a lot while obviously taking a dump on Taylor and it wasn't a good look.

my dad's a priest and always says god doesn't watch sports...

You saying he's going to major Keuter.

After all that stuff he said about Davis now he's throwing him under the bus! Dude I know you're trying to edge your way into being taken seriously but this isn't the way!

I think feldman is generally overrated. Like they know he's not top tier, but they want to pretend he's alone in another tier above everyone else, when in reality there are a handful of guys with a definite shot at beating him. Kennedy is gonna beat Kharchla, I thought Turley was gonna take him out for a second.

well luckily we'll likely find out

4 man RR?

Na not happening.

heindselman is such a douche I am totally in favor

Didn't you hear? This stuff grows the sport! All the basketball fans heard we have idiots and they all watch now.

yeah but your characterization makes him sound like a spoiled child. These guys were all studs I don't know why he gets labeled as not "coping with not being the best".

I'm not sure what about Kueter merits that diagnosis...

In the interest of fairness, if tOSU had a performance like that from a blue chip with experience, i would be holding the whole staff respsonsible... @MPhillips

He seems really game, but he's probably gonna have to figure out some bonus points if he doesn't want to get recruited over.

what aspect of that grows the sport. I'm not talking about providing services to a captive audience, I'm talking about either making the sport palatable to people who aren't already involved, or challenging/refining concepts within the community.

omg...this is tiger king....get a camera on him till march and you're rich.

Yeah fair enough, what if I said we're talking about reconciling our perceptions of their overall quality as wrestlers over time? You'd probably say thats an impossible conversation to ground appropriately, which is true, and I'd counter by repeating that sense results naturally trend upward (because people graduating is a factor), you providing mild evidence of an upward trend when it should be extreme is not convincing at all, and then we would repeat the process. I'll sigbet you on the placements of Mendes feldman and Bouzakis? voided by injury

you're trying to leverage the fact that people graduate as improvement. only exception on the list is romero, snyder who they made go the wrong weight and stieber. But if you watch stieber's flo film he talks about how he used to skip practice and float off the last few pounds of his cut, which is incompetent coaching so I'm hard pressed to give the staff credit for him.

If i didn't need to follow athletes at tournaments I wouldn't. I don't think they do anything for wrestling. There are big changes coming to college next year, potentially disastrous, and they have hardly mentioned them.

I haven't read the original and would be grateful to see it

this is a great point while also missing the point. When we argue about Iowa and tOSU we are doing fan mentality hair splitting, which is what we are here for, talks about the shortcomings of inconsequential programs are more closely tied to the problems the sport faces as a whole...and therefore difficult dreary and not that fun.

Davis but now that you mention it cinnabon trying to transition from pure troll to thought leader has been a little embarrassing!

no its not they all peak as freshmen i didn't say they couldn't recruit

They REALLY don't develop talent.