Husker_Du

1 minute ago, Dark Energy said:

Perhaps Hammerlock has created yet another alias.  

@Husker_Du- can you see emails or IPs?  Or is that all @BobDole?

i can see it.

call Hammerlock whatever you want (i have lol)

but the man is knowledgable and engaged and would never A) ask what content I produce or B) confuse Rokfin w/ Rudis

8 hours ago, Crablegs said:

I’m just curious why there hasn’t been a “big creator” join yet.  If the platform is so clearly better, you’d think there has been enough time for one of them to come over.  My guess is that the platform is better for monetizing a small, fringe audience.  But, it will never work for mass appeal, so no one with a large audience will join.  But if you have a small, die hard fan base (like wrestling) you’ll be ok.
 

LOL on the crypto. Hope you’ve been cashing in your RAE and putting it in a savings account.  

you could be correct: perhaps rokfin will prove to be only 'better' for certain types of creators. idk. i'd be silly to be sure of anything as the platform is in its infancy. i know this much though - if you took the views one gets on YT and the compensation they get and compare it to rokfin for the same numbers....it's night and day.

i know what numbers i'm driving and i know what revenue comes with that. and i'm more than happy with it. and that's all that really matters. 

1 hour ago, Max86 said:

So Rofkin is basically for content that is not worthy of YouTube and it gives the fringe operator the chance to charge for his content if anyone is willing to pay. Is that it?

nailed it 

geesh. i've never seen anyone make in entrance in which they're so clearly oblivious in so many consecutive posts.

and you do it with so much surety. impressive. 

i know. i just like to give you a hard time. 

1 hour ago, Crablegs said:

You keep saying it’s the best medium for creators. But what’s the proof?  Outside of wrestling there is nothing worthwhile on there.  A bunch of fringe content like crypto (which is imploding as we speak) and conspiracy theories. 

Where are all the creators of content with large audiences?    

 

just because they (high audience creators) aren't on there yet doesn't mean the model isn't the best. a more equitable platform was the entire impetus behind the project.

the compensation (the share the creator gets) is night and day. the first big creator that gets on there will do massive numbers.

that's why i'm saying that you guys are forming an argument without knowing the full situation. i'm not trying to be arrogant about it. rokfin is new, the details unknown to most, and i happen to be in the middle of it. 

(by the way, crypto isn't 'imploding;' it's going through what it should go through, which is weeding out the junk projects and those with very little real world application. the one's worth it will survive. and imo, thrive.

omg i can't believe you guys fell for that. 

2 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Let's see him against a higher level guy before we lose our minds.

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if you guys scratch Vak's avatar you can actually smell his nervousness. if you don't believe me, try it.

i said in my first reply that i wouldn't try to convince you guys.

i'll stop now.

think what you want. it's your money after all. 

that's a horribly inaccurate metaphor.

that cup isn't empty. 

12 minutes ago, BerniePragle said:

The cornerstone of "Total Quality Management" as defined and taught by W. Edwards Deming was to meet the customer's requirements.  This has been replaced in many of today's companies (especially the "cool kids" typified here), who are concerned only with meeting their own requirements.
Customers?  We don't need no stinking customers.

I simply refuse to play the "bait and switch" game so common with the "content providers" anymore.  Clearly and concisely define the cost and the product for the dumb guys like me who are not so good at the fuzzy wuzzy stuff.  Oh yeah, and also who dislike surprises

Rokfin = $100 yr. and one off PPV fees for certain events whose promoter decides to utilize that function

glad to clear that up for you.

that may or may not be the case, Mike.

however 1) rokfin is agnostic in this (it's the event organizer that decides it) and 2) it's much better for me (who doesn't use ppv but who has more daily viewers than most)

it's a really great happy medium (and currently the best situation for the creators)

the only down side is that some consumers a skittish b/c they can't wrap their brain around $10+$15=$25 vs. $25

of course, the choice is yours in deciding whether to watch or not. 

2 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

are you using flo as an example of something sensible to compare to?  data is powerful, but you have to know how to use it.  

are you using any data at all? 

seems to me you're making assumptions based out of thin air.

46 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

It's also a barrier to entry.

How many people would have paid a higher base monthly bill and watched more wrestling? What's the answer to this question?
How many people pay the base but balk at paying the PPV for events? What's the answer to this question?

If they had a smart model, there would be a revenue sharing agreement that the consumer was blind to. I'm open to hearing some sort of 'smart model' proposal.
With this stuff, the consumer sees everything and may decide not to purchase. Is that not the case with literally everything? You either pay the price or you won't. What's the difference between a PPV for $25 vs a $10/mo + $15 ppv other than them arbitrary perspective?

Fewer events make money this way. Evidence?

at the end of the day the current system is better for the creators in a world where every other platform is terrible for creators.

if you guys think this is terrible for consumers, and that it limits viewership, then the market will bear that out and the creators will have to reconsider ppv.

otherwise, you're just scoffing at semantics and/or a unique funnel. 

1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

  It strikes me a bit of pennywise and pound-foolish to optimize one's own economics at the expense of being unreasonable to consumers (who would have awarded you with greater scale and increased economics over time).  

wrestling people always say this and it's always not accurate.

there's a reason flo makes it painful/impossible to do monthly. it's called data.

and your assumption that a different model would result in more customers is just that...an assumption.

it works better for both daily content creators (like me) and individual event promoters (like Frank Pop) that both are in play. 

i wouldn't say the single/initial plan didn't work. i think it worked quite will. but that this (from a creator's pov) was more equitable.

of course, it's up to the event promoter to use the ppv or not. that's not determined by the platform. 

OKST + Over parlay

NEB + Over parlay

Both overs parlay

Bolen-Romero under 9.5

I think Wittlake can be very solid up two weights. that being said, idk if he's Keck-Hidlay level. i wouldn't put him there yet.

It's the individual channels/creators that roundly requested the ppv option.

i won't try to convince y'all that it makes sense b/c you probably made up your mind. but it makes all the sense in the world.

and at the end of the day, if you don't subscribe normally, just consider it a $25ppv.

of course you can decide if that's too steep for ya or not. 

i would also suggest maybe considering the P&L of the events these promoters put on.

(keep in mind, i don't do ppv events so this is not me trying to defend myself)

All DI Commits

holler if i'm missing any

He's #1 at 220 and #1 P4P (with Meyer Shapiro out)

he's going to take classes online and just train.

was supposed to go to Ironman with this being the first year Indiana was allowed to attend, so it's a bummer from that angle. 

13 hours ago, DocBB said:

He wasn't great at Super 32's. Pure speculation but I think Ryan went with Brock Herman who flipped to Ohio State shortly before Adams announced. Could be Ryan chose Herman or maybe knew Adams wasn't coming.

 

Kyle Parco is probably a reasonable comparison as to how high might be expected to place at NCAA's eventually...mid to low AA IMO. Omania might be his floor.

He took 6th at S32 and was 2nd last year.

IDK what Adams has to do with Herman/tOSU but that's not true. 

Adams and Herman were both in the same bracket in May and Adams was 2nd and Herman 5th.

Herman's losses were to kasak and manville. manville just beat Herman again in Folk last weekend. 

23 hours ago, treep2000 said:

Not a big deal... until I'm proven wrong.  Good greco guys and ncaa folk tend to not mix well.  Look at the Koontz Bros. At tOSU.  Very solid greco guys, but backups at best at ncaa d1.

Joel Adams is very much more than a 'good greco guy'. He won Fargo in FS, made Cadet FS World Team Trials finals, and made finals of S32 in folk. The Koontz brothers are not a good comparison. 

what are you trying to stir up?

that's from a year ago TBar lol

thankfully, i was working all day and didn't put anything in haha.