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I suspect it comes from the philosophy that is drilled into them from a young age that it’s best to let your wrestling do the talking on the mat rather than talk a lot off the mat. It probably is ok for wrestling but perhaps less so for mma etc where hyping things up is conducive to the excitement around match and financial benefits.

60 million years ago the dinosaurs went extinct and here we are now because rodent like mammals survived then thrived then evolved.

I think he is agreeing with you - saying it’s an ad ‘hominem fallacy’ in logic textbooks ,but a ‘circumantial attack’ - ie attack against who is saying something rather than what is being said

Whilst I am not religious and actually don’t wish to defend any sort of faith it’s worth mentioning that Muslims do revere Jesus as a prophet and consider him the Messiah coming back in the day of judgement.You won’t find religious Muslim disparaging Jesus. There is a good summary from ChatGPT In Islam, Jesus (known as *'Isa* in Arabic) is highly revered as one of the greatest prophets, but not considered divine. Here's a summary of the general Muslim beliefs about Jesus: *Core Beliefs:* 1. *Prophet, Not God*: Muslims believe Jesus was a *mighty prophet and messenger of God*, not the son of God or divine. 2. ****I have a limited vocabulary*** Birth*: Like Christianity, Islam teaches that Jesus was born miraculously to *Mary (Maryam)*, a ***I have a limited vocabulary***, by the will of God. 3. *No Crucifixion*: The *majority Muslim belief* is that *Jesus was not crucified*. Instead, it appeared so to people, and *God raised him to heaven*. This is based on the Qur'an (Surah An-Nisa 4:157-158). 4. *Miracles*: Jesus performed many *miracles* by God’s permission, such as healing the blind and lepers and bringing the dead to life. 5. *Not the Son of God*: Islam strictly emphasizes *monotheism (Tawhid)* and rejects the idea of the Trinity or divine sonship. 6. *Second Coming*: Muslims believe that Jesus will *return before the Day of Judgment* to restore justice and defeat the false messiah (al-Dajjal). 7. *Scripture*: Jesus was given a divine book called the *Injil* (Gospel), which Muslims believe has been altered over time. *Respect and Titles*: Jesus is referred to as *'Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus, son of Mary)*, *al-Masih (the Messiah)*, *Ruh Allah (Spirit from God)*, and *Kalimatullah (Word of God)* — all emphasizing his honor without implying divinity. Let me know if you’d like Qur’anic references or how these beliefs compare with Christian views.

Oh- I must have got my wires crossed somehow. At any rate it would have been ironic if did have a Muslim covert brother though…

Its kept out of the search engines for various reasons. If you check with chatgpt you will find that Mozaffar too was poped positive for PED's by UWRHB and his recital performance of 1.40 minutes with single breath was pharmaceutically aided.

I believe Aaron Brooks brother-Mozzafar- who is a Muslim convert -went on for 1 minute 40 seconds without taking a breath trying to express his indignation about his brother false profit claim. The crowd loved him too…

Not dunking on him at all. I was dunking on your self righteous remark stereotyping Iranians as cheaters. Personally I don’t care one way or another about Aaron Brooks.

Oops- Aaron Brooks… oh dear oh dear. God given undertook… lol

Iran has the national tournament as well as the Takhti cup. Doing well in these is the prerequisite for being considered a contender for the weight. Often there is written and predefined ‘cycle’ for who ultimately gets the national nomination which would also involve competing in international tournaments. The Takhti cup and National Championships are not based on league structure but instead individual provinces send wrestlers based on quotas. Often you see Mazandaran wrestlers participating under the flag/quota of other provinces. The league competitions is separate and performed with teams ( not individual winners for the competition but teams winners)often with industrial sponsors that allows a revenue stream for the athletes. They will often have wrestlers from Russia also participate as the funding whilst not huge is enough to be conducive to participation.

I believe the upcoming new head of Iranian wrestling federation( apparently due to be in post mid August) Rasoul Khadem intends to send a strong team to the world championship in September. I have it from good authority that Hassan Cherati won’t make it for 86 kg ( too concerned about losing to Z. Valencia being a prodigy of D. Taylor apparently)but instead is looking to go down to 79kg.

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Yes- All the noise about foreign wrestlers taking the places for indigenous athletes, coming from Bulgaria does seem to have gone quiet which is understandable. If you have some current reigning Olympic champions albeit trained elsewhere, it makes much sense to let them get on with it specially if the ranks of home grown talent are not at the same level. Although in the long run it will make it more difficult to recruit others.... but perhaps that was the point.

Good point. It’s is getting more complicated..

Also there would be less chance of a backlash for him Bulgarian style

I suspect Bahrain or Qatar may be better choice financially. Bahrain could also become a force not only in 97 but also in 125 kg…

It’s a tired cliche to suggest if someone is doing well it is because they are cheating. I doubt that you would be able to provide any evidence to back that up but please feel free to do this if you can.

Valencia beat an 18 year old just from cadets. I see you are really grasping at straws. I guess Zahid Valencia has not given you a great deal over the years . If you want to feel elated over meagre pickings who am I to stop you. Enjoy

I think Rahmani went straight from cadets to seniors and did well winning the Asians continental championship as an 18 year old only a month ago against a bunch of seasoned seniors . Whatever hopes you have for Zahid probably comes from another sources unrelated to Rahmanis progress in the course of a month or two as an 18 year old although that would seem to be acceptable to his fans regardless. Ghassempour has beaten Kadiev in Russia recently with refereeing very much tipped in Kadiev favour in his own home turf but I guess he will no doubt will be a contender in the coming cycle. Has Kadiev got any major senior wins? If I recall correctly he did not compete for Russia in the recent European championship ?

I am told by a reliable source Putin asked Saitiev not to stand too close to a window

Said KS to his partner in crime…

I guess Mason Paris, Wyatt Hendrickson and Gable are all on the right side of 25 and I am confident they will all be in a position to give Zare and Masoumi or any other talented new comer, and not to mention Geno a run for their money. Gable certainly is a great talent and if he now decides he wants to take his rightful place as a HW wrestler internationally we would be having a different discussion and the 9 out of 10 prediction may still come to pass ( although I get it that you meant this in the context of encounters between Wyatt and Gable).

I guess the problem may be when Gable had the chance to come and defend his Olympic title( perhaps 2-3 times?) he didn’t take that chance. Presumably it’s fair enough to suggest that you got to actually come out and compete if you want to be considered a contender. Gable seems to have backed out of coming back to do that but I’m sure we can say 9 out 10 years he will have come out and show what he is made of internationally but there were mitigating circumstances …

Did Gable Steveson not lose to a compatriot -Wyatt Hendrickson-recently? Is he still expected to be able to compete internationally for medals not having done anything internationally or created a track record in international tournaments for what 3-4 years?

Ah that makes sense- putting something up in the heat of the moment then deleting it when he has calmed down. It must be intolerable being stuck behind Zare where you could make your case on the wrestling mat for being amongst the world or Olympic medals. It would make sense, I agree with you, If he tried to compete for another country. As a wrestling fan it would also be interesting to see him compete against Zare and others in the world arena rather than just Takhti cup.