lu1979

If I was Cardenas and his coaches I would seriously consider pulling that RS and making a run for the title this year. With Teemer down to injury and Shapiro (who Cardenas was 2-1 against last year) possibly dealing with concussion issues that weight is wide open. As a Lehigh guy I am hoping Max Brignola would consider making a run at this weight if he thinks he could still make it and be effective.

Lee Kemp

Hope he recovers well - he is young and was very impressive in Paris. He was very competitive with Taz and I thought we could be seeing the beginnings of a rivalry. What did he have to have fixed?

Even if he's healthy I think he will have his hands full against Azarpira - that kid is legit.

for Minn add Nagao and Jamison

I did not say "in Spring of 2011" - November of 2010 was before JB's senior year and his 1st at 165. He had missed the previous year due to injury. Most importantly JB did not have a lot of FS experience. He jumped into in the spring of 2011 and looked good immediately.

In November 2010 most people didn't see JB as a medal threat. Lots of potential in the US stable.

The Big 12 title - absolutely

It was a terrible movie and it was especially terrible if you wanted to know what happened in regards to the true story - like often happens in Hollywood they decided to spin a tale that was far removed from what actually happened. Mark Schultz was done competing (in FS Wrestling) in 1988 - the murder happened in 1996. For most of the early 1990s Mark was living in Utah coaching at BYU - that's pretty far removed from Foxcatcher - watching the movie you sure don't get that impression. If you are interested in what actually happened watch one of the documentaries - Mark Schultz had very little involvement with DuPont from 1988 on.

I am not sure either one of them will be at 157 in college - If they are they will certainly be able to compete for the starting spot. Duke especially could be ready to compete for a high spot on the podium if he can make 157 - if he is up at 165 he will overlap MM by at least 1 year and then I expect he will hold that spot after MM leaves. (I wouldn't be totally shocked if he took the spot as a RSF) I am afraid Sealy will probably be one of the extremely talented guys from 165 to 184 who is shut out from starting at PSU.

I would expect Van Ness and Kasek will hold down 149 and 157 over the next 3 years - I am not sure which of them is more likely to be able to continue at 149 for 3 years. As for 141 next year and going forward - either Nagao or Davis could move up next year - a lot depends on if Lilledahl is going to stay at 125 - if he moves up to 133 at any time it will be his weight. PSU also has Brock Weiss who is a freshman and may be able to cut down. Next year they are bringing in high end recruit Dalton Perry who may be at 141 (a little early to tell) - also in this day and age the transfer portal will offer Cael and company many options to fill any holes in the lineup if there appears to be one.

125 - Lilledahl 133 - Crookham 141 - Bartlett 149 - Lovett 157 - Shapiro 165 - Mesenbrink 174 - O'Toole 184 - Keckeisen over CStar 197 - Elam Hvy - Kerk

Levi certainly looked big enough to compete for a NCAA title at 174lbs and he went and beat the consensus #1 preseason guy at that weight - my guess is he's PSU's starter @ 174

Also why would anyone expect a kid to go to Fargo who was training to go to U20 Worlds? Seriously?

Your description of WRash's take as asinine is generous. Bo just won a Bronze medal as a 1st year U20 wrestler where he looked awesome in all his matches excepting the Semi loss. He has beaten highly accomplished D1 wrestlers as well as other super elite High School kids. Anyone talking about him being a bust is just a dick.