Scouts Honor

it's not ridiculous... look at how iowa wrestled 20 years ago. now today looks the same for the guys of their caliber. they just dont have the hammers anymore except for Lee warner, brands murin all wrestle like the average guys of previous years nothing has changed. not saying they are bad... but have they kept up?

again, paper means nothing thats why they wrestle my evidence: compare where you thought NU would be in November to where they are now. not saying NU didn't get dominated in the dual

manning didn't inherit the wrestling tradition at Iowa

i mean, im realistic i see NU going o for today... and I dont see a top 5 finish at ncaa but spare me the iowa is the best i mean, murin for god sake

desanto got better? marinelli got better? m star? brands?

maybe

only one?

i remember discussions about the penn 5 at iowa too... how did that all work out...

personally, someone calling out manning here is wrong just look at where the team is now compared to november i know if ifs and buts were candy and nuts etc... but if lovett was wrestling and pinto doesn't fall asleep against romero we are looking at 7 in the finals and perhaps a chance at second...

in the history of homers on this board, its finally not someone from Iowa or New Jersey

question for people who know foreign rosters: interested in knowing how many russians were on other teams before the boycott and how many were on other teams after the boycott ukr had several dudes in medals armenia, georgia, kzg, kaz etc... im not spelling all the stans so yeah

good point. i think perhaps zahid exposed on the continuation out of bounds?

when i saw it, i would have scored it 4 ukr and 2 usa just like they did however, i can't believe they let ukr RUN the entire second period and NO 30 second clock he did one counter and shot once at 35 seconds left... that was it, backward and running he didn't come close to holding center now zahid could have done a bit more actual attacks but... The match that makes people cringe at freestyle scoring has to be finesilvers he lifts the guy, hanging on his back, im yelling just drop on top of him backwards!!! he does a cartwheel and gets two then does the exact same move and gets four talk about inconsistency

im not at home... but i was looking this weekend and think i saw socon and mac were also on espn+ i would bet pac 12 is on pac 12...which i dont have

yes both were right calls... however, why did the count start so much later on teske...

vasquez was out they said this was the last match yas could wrestle but still RS

i dont think he gave up right away... but the decision to ride... probably not a good one... that kid was tough... not sure which way to attack a 5 point deficit against him

serious question Fix v Teske at some point ithink first period after a td? or maybe 2nd and fix was on top. fix is on top and they are in a scramble and fix dives at ankles etc... the ref almost immediately counts, and there is a stall but fix doens't care b/c end of period and he stayed in control Then the next period teske on top and the same type of situation happens and teske on ankles... no count for about 20 seconds... he finally does count and gives the stall warning. but allowed it for a long time before the count. what was the difference in the situations...? anyone else see this?

i believe in PA they call that a cement job that the osu wrestler was trying from his feet had lee going and then lee reacted and cartwheeled over and stuck the guy lee is playing with fire...that was very dangerous

larry owings wants a word

im not taking a shot at anyone but i dont get the whole.. 130 is the new 141 130 pounders are about 133 pounders 115 pounders or 118 pounders from back in the day.. are 115 and 118 pounders if we talk 133, i would say everyone from 130-135 qualifies no matter the era. is it b/c of the 2 hour weigh in?

i agree, the ankle rides, double thigh pry and double boots should be called stalling

that is kind of crazy how are seeds for ncaa tourney determined? does the coaches poll have anything to do with it... if so i smell a rat

i like this idea... but being in control is still a skill. a hard skill. if everyone could do it...

i do like this idea!!