Even for Cael this seems like a very odd answer given the question is about his first successful wrestler to become a head coach at top program. I think his response also means we won't see a PSU vs OSU dual on the schedule anytime soon.
Well Uetake was never beaten never challenged. Starocci was beaten and I'd say even challenged in some of his wins. I'd say he is behind several of the undefeated 3x+. He didn't win World or Olympic gold correct?