Jimmy Cinnabon

Jacob Warner

For me, it's David Taylor. He may *only* have won 2 NCAA titles but he has the 2 Hodges and the Olympic Gold.

Spencer had a torn ACL when he lost to Desanto in the PIAA finals when he was a senior in high school. I think he's had at least 1 bad ACL every single season he's competed in college. He's worn one or two giant leg braces that go from his ankle to his hip. That said, the toll of these injuries is definitely cumulative and I think freestyle can be especially hard on the knees...think all the torque you go through when you get leg laced. A "healthy" Spencer could win a Olympic gold medal...a Spencer with two shot knees and 6 years of NCAA wear and tear...well I guess we'll see...

Maybe? He had the COVID year, one medical redshirt...could he use a regular redshirt now? He is *relatively* young for an Iowa wrestler at only 24 years of age.

You are right, 2017 HS grad. But this is his 6th season of NCAA wrestling.

He's a 2016 high school grad, so yes this is year 6 in college.

Here's a hypothetical regarding Spencer Lee. We all know he had double ACL surgery this offseason, and is likely to sit out the college season as much as possible. He will likely wrestle the minimum 10 matches to qualify for NCAAs and then try to win his 4th NCAA championship. Now, would you rather see Spencer win his 4th NCAA title or become a Olympic medalist? Obviously, he could very well achieve both, but for purposes of this hypothetical, we are assuming he can only do one...because of his body and the wear and tear pursuing a 4th NCAA title will add. So 4-timer or Olympic medalist?

Yianni could win it with a loss if there are no other big name undefeateds. I think Spencer Lee who is undefeated with at least 10 matches wins it easily. 4x NCAA is worth like 90% of winning the Hodge.

DT was ridden by Dake multiple times. Nolf ridden by IMAar. Granted those are pretty much the only 2 guys to do it...but they were ridden nonetheless.

How would you rank Desanto? Neutral: A- (against most guys he's a TD machine, struggles to get TDs vs top competition read: RBY) Top: B (not really a turner) Bottom: B+ (has been ridden by the top guys)

Yes but those are like the only 2 times he's been bad on bottom in his entire college career. Would you give Isiah Martinez a C on bottom because he got pinned by Joseph?

Lee is not a C on bottom. At worst he is a A-

Fix A- (neutral) A+ (top) A- (bottom)

* This ranking assumes the wrestlers win out, in typical fashion ** With Yianni already taking a L he is out of the rankings 1. Spencer Lee - With Yianni losing, the Hodge is Spencer's to lose. He could wrestle the minimum regular season matches, skip Big 10s, and will still win NCAAs easily. 4x NCAA champ = auto-Hodge 2. RBY - this is a tough one since Starrocci and Brooks can also become 3x national champs this year, but I think if RBY beats Fix for a 3rd time in the finals he wins it. 3. Brooks - I think the margin between RBY, Brooks and Starroci is slim but I see Brooks winning in a more dominant fashion. 4. Starroci - I think he can become a 3x NCAA champ. Lewis can still knock him off though. 5. O'Toole - can become a 2x NCAA champ, will probably score a ton of bonus this season. 6. Schultz - a snoozefest but should easily repeat as NCAA champ this year

Say Yianni takes a second loss, but so does Gomez. Does the H2H win (a dominant one at that) of Gomez over Yianni mean anything? Does a 2 loss Yianni get the #1 over a one 1 loss Gomez assuming they finished the regular season this way?

You can thank Mr. Cunningham for that.

As of 11/22/22

O'toole dominating Hamiti is surprising (at least on paper). How did that go?

I didn't have the privilege to watch live but only follow PBP online. Any takeaways? I was surprised by Rocky Elam beating Warner and I see Kerk finally got over the Mt. Cassioppi. Other than that looks like most everything went chalk?

You are more optimistic than me, good sir. I have a hard time seeing him break .500 in the regular season.

Do you think he can qualify for NCAAs?

Kervliet and Cassioppi meet tonight at the All-Star match. Cass has dominated the series but Kerk is up to 253 pounds and supposedly healthy for the first time in a long time. How do you see this one shaking out? Can Kerk pull the upset?

With the unfortunate injury to Robbie Howard Penn State is yet again without a solid starting 125 pounder. The team may be good enough to win NCAAs anyway, even without a qualifier at 125 pounds...but should Cael try to dial-up the transfer portal and land a national qualifier level 125 pounder? I would propose going local...seeing if Anthony Noto at Lock Haven wants to bring his talents to State College. He won't be dethroning Spencer Lee (but then again, no one can) but he can at least make nationals and score some team points.

Mason Gibson will be a career backup?

Hardly a peep about this on the Cornell forums and oddly silent on this forum. Is this not as big of a deal as I thought?