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I didn't really think Kasak would qualify? He may be higher ranked but it's not like he's heavily favored or a seasoned veteran. Heck he may not even be the starter according to Cael.

We were the Red Devils and ran out to "Running with the Devil."

I think the Glazier v. Brooks match is one that could be close. Glazier is a guy who seems to have a good motor and he likes to score. His best win is against Allred who has been quite underwhelming this year, but Glazier did look good in the match. I guess Friday night we will see just how good he is.

I predict a great night of wrestling! Does that count?

Where would anyone get information regarding someone not wrestling in the meet? I suggested it could happen (not Bartlett but just certain guys not going) but that just seemed like a possibility due to how often it seems to happen for one reason or another. I have to doubt that anyone affiliated with the PSU program or Iowa program that has intimate knowledge of the situation would divulge that. Certainly the wrestlers know better and the coaches definitely wouldn't reveal that.

Do we realistically think that both teams will put out all of their starters in this match up? My guess is that each team holds back at least 1. I say the Hawks hold back Glazier and PSU holds back Davis. My reasoning would be an undefeated Glazier gets the 2 seed in the BigTen and pretty much get a chance to surprise Brooks in the finals having no prior experience with him. With Davis' win over D'agustino, and D'agustino win over Ayala if Davis wins his matches against Rutgers, Nebraska and Edinboro, very doable, he will be the #2 seed with an easier path(maybe even a bye) to the quarterfinals. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? You have to pick at least 1 from each team and why it would make sense.

If this match has happened last year that exchange is scored differently however, with the new rules regarding control being required, i still think this a neutral danger scenario at which point it's clearly not enough time for the requisite count to be completed. I know it's easy to hate on PSU but I certainly don't believe they "get" more calls and I know the coaches at PSU are definitely not ref bullies like a lot of other guys out there. A lot of the comments come across as "sour grapes." I didn't see nearly as many guys hating on the Woods not pinned situation that happened in the Iowa match last night so maybe there is just a little too much PSU hate going on.

I probably would have called it a takedown but it's easy to say that from my living room. Like I said, they stayed with the call on the mat because they felt it didn't meet criteria for danger takedown. I have never been a referee, I didn't know what the training for that situation looks like. We can read the rule book but there is always a bit of room to interpret situations like that.

I agree but how was only 1 stall called against him though?

I think we all lost that match

He may have more matches than actual shots... Forget takedowns.

I think he has more matches on the season than takedowns in those matches.

The refs felt that there was no control so they counted danger but it didn't make the count. Doesn't really matter what we think but I can see both sides. If it had been ruled a takedown they probably wouldn't have overturned it. Just is what it is sometimes.

Nagao reminds be a bit like SVN last year. He kept losing close matches during the regular season, but he just needed to tweak a few things. The coaches worked with him and did just that and he had an amazing post season. I see that same thing for Nagao

That is definitely something we can all agree on

I thoroughly enjoyed the tough matches. The OSU guys came to wrestle. I also like how these guys seem to keep the right perspective after a loss. They show good character and coaching.

As long as he's got his PhD to go with it after 7 years I'm ok if he earns a championship.

Maybe we are putting too much stock into rankings especially at weights where there are a lot of guys who are good wrestlers but not a dominant guy or two at the top. We have all kind of become accustom to that but I find 125 kind of refreshing. I know come NCAA tournament time these guys will have to be ranked (and I'm not going to envy the guys doing that job) but prior to that it's just fun to see these guys wrestle it out.

He did lose the chance to wrestle in his last NCAA tournament. I feel that guys who lost that year in general really get left out of a lot of conversations. I know it was a very tough/weird/unpleasant year for most of us but because they lost the post season it ruined the finishing accomplishments for a lot guys but probably him the most. We were all very anxious to see how that tournament was going to play out.

All I care about is that, for the most part, they should be great match ups from bottom to top. There are a few that maybe won't live up to expectations but if everyone is healthy and everyone wrestles this should be a great event. I could see a situation that if Iowa gets some good wins in the lower weights they could put Arnold out there but that's just hopeful thinking on my part.

I didn't realize that the PSU wrestlers and coaches were griping? I must have missed the interviews that they gave regarding this. As for the people on here griping; there's pretty much nothing much else to do until the matches take place and we get more results but we have to pass the time doing something while we wait.

I think the reason they play it razor thin has to do with trying to be as healthy as possible going into the post season. It would appear that they believe you can be at the top of your game having only wrestled 15 or so matches prior to Big Tens and be far healthier as well. We also knew this year was probably more of an issue because they told us it would be a reduced schedule. There are a good number of guys on the PSU team who are training to be potential olympians (also training with current olympians and world team members at the NLWC) and they are trying to balance that with the college season.

We have seen the committee do some head scratching seeding in years past. In the end though none of these to guys are interested in taking the easy way to the championship. They all believe they can beat whoever steps on the mat across from them. I do believe that an undefeated Big Ten champion gets a #2 seed at the NCAA championship, given the caliber of other guys in the Big Ten, assuming Keegan goes undefeated and wins his conference as well and gets the #1 seed. Any other scenario after that and it becomes a crap shoot as to how they seed the bracket.

What's the over/under for the number of shots Lewan will take during the match?

Some of you make it sound like all of these situations where wrestlers leave are completely the fault of coaches or the wrestlers or that the coaches had it within their power to keep the wrestler in the program. I don't understand how, without intimate knowledge of the situation, you come to those conclusions. In a lot of cases the coaches and wrestlers keep the details to themselves and won't speak publicly so it's purely conjecture on your part as to how the situation could have been handled to keep everyone happy.