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There is a thread on HR about Iowa slipping to number 3 in WIN Magazine's tournament power index behind Missouri. I still have Iowa #2 across the board using Intermat, Flo and Wrestlestat individual rankings combined with expected placement and advancement points (no bonus points in my totals). And in one case (the only case that matters? Intermat) they even increased their lead over Missouri by 0.8 points. Some of the responses on HR focus on the "fact" that Missouri always underperforms their seed, so it is OK. I am not so sure that is the hook Hawkeye fans want to hang their hat on, though. Yes, Missouri tends to underperform when their seeds are higher, but then who doesn't? You can also argue they were over-seeded in 2018 and 2021 as a result of being in a "weaker" conference, but that is cherry picking or else how do you explain 2017 when they had their highest average finish while only missing their seed by a half spot? Regardless, this year their seeds are a result of this year's results, not some perceived historical bias. And the expected points methodology accounts for under-performance on average at higher seeds and over-performance at lower seeds. But the real point here is nothing has changed for Iowa. There is a gap between them and PSU in one direction with a smaller gap between them and Missouri in the other direction.

Ed Banach scored an average of 25.625 per tournament. Spencer Lee has scored an average of 25.333 per tournament. If he fails to win the title (he won't) and scores under 26.5 he will still trail Banach.

No. Of their 54 NCAA champions the highest win percentage is 75% (Ed Banach, Jim Zalesky, Barry Davis, Tom Brands, Lincoln McIlravy, Joe Williams, and Spencer Lee {until March, then 100%}). In the "No Freshman" eras they had but a single 2x'er, Terry McCann from 1954 to 1956.

That is an impressively large library. In what format(s)?

@Fadzaev2?

Too funny. I said five and listed six/seven. Some data guy.

You seemed like you wanted to be asked, or else why bring it up?

It reads like you don't have a singular GOAT, but rather a top tier. If so, who is in that tier?

Think of it this way, you can never lose because never is a long time to never use an exclamation point.

Sig bet?

Does it make me a bad person if I have never used an emoji? Reading about your various techniques for self care makes me not regret swimming, in spite of the partially torn labrums

My guess is they all need chiropractor/PT all the time. Though, Amos did wrestle again on Sunday, losing to Zach Braunagel 3-4. No idea how he looked.

If I am not mistaken, everyone from everywhere considers him the GOAT.

The official count has caught up with the unofficial count. Five preseason #1's have fallen (Cole Matthews, Yianni Diakomihalis, Will Lewan/Brayton Lee, Aaron Brooks, Max Dean, Cohlton Schultz). But wait, there is more. Make fun of Wrestlestat all you want, but only three of their preseason #1's have taken an L. They had Austin O'Connor at #1 in 157 (though he has dropped to #3) and Mason Parris in 285. But wait, there is even more more. When I downloaded the Wrestlestat data on 10/27 they had O'Connor at an Elo of 1570.43. They now say his preseason Elo was 1553.03 for a #2 ranking. Ahh, data. It can be so slippery.

I am comfortable with him at his own tier because he is 2 for 2 at NCAA's and on a 36 (37) match win streak that includes 1 (2) wins over Mekhi Lewis. Last year he beat the second, third, and seventh place finishers on the way to his title. (Nick Lee, Keegan O'Toole, Aaron Brook, and Gable Steveson also beat 3 ultimate AA's - everyone else beat 2). The year before as the 3 seed he beat the 2 seed and 1 seed.

Tier 1 is Starocci. Tier 2 is Labriola, Lewis, and Foca.

and Wrestlestat

For Flo it is 10 of 10 upperclassmen in 125 in the top 10 Caveat: I have done nothing to make sure that each service considers wrestlers to be the same year in school. So if Intermat calls one guy a sophmore and Flo calls him a junior that could explain the difference.

I always thought this too, but you inspired me to take a quick look. Per latest Intermat ratings 125 has the highest total of top 10 ranked wrestlers coming from upper classmen (Juniors and Seniors - however that is defined these days), with 9 of 10. 125 also has the most underclassmen in the 21-33 range.

I knew once we got away from Conestoga wagons these darn kids would wander off too far. Mark my words, SpaceX will be then end of PSU dominance, too.

only half of me

Would watching Lee v Ramos embolden Fix or scare him off?

And Lee.

Seems like it is mostly your feelings that were hurt.

I don't understand why you think the knee was not designed to bend toward the back.