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Just now, NM1965 said:

Ramirez wouldn't have a conference title if Mesenbrink was in his conference. 

That's irrelevant to seeding

12 minutes ago, NM1965 said:

Why not see Hamiti over Ramirez? Hamiti has a better record and was more dominant in his wins, plus Hamiti wrestled a tougher schedule. 

Ramirez has a conference title and in common opponent (Carr) Ramirez edges Hamiti

22 minutes ago, jajensen09 said:

What is going to happen with 174 bracket. We all know about Carter. But man that Griffith injury looked even worse. Will they throw the guys in the tournament and wait until last minute to see if they are alright. Will they allow late entries into the tournament and redo the entire bracket...?

Can you create/start the thread for PSU is below average 125-149, Nebraska is better, etc.  I'm asking for a friend.  He's been itching for a cinnabon.  Can you glaze it with PSU wont win the tournament or something that's extra sweet?

4 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

so you're dumb, angry, and blind?

Carter?  Yeah he's there.  You just can't see him.  His favorite game to play with team photos is Where's Carter?  Hint, blue & white striped shirt & beanie, glasses, hair parted over his left eye.  Blue pants

8 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

 

Posted that almost immediately after this thread popped up...what a coincidence

Unless the formula has changed here's a breakdown between Carr & Ramirez so I could be wrong on ranking Ramirez higher...Based on last Coaches Poll & RPI

                                                                                                                     Carr  |  Ramirez

Head-to-head competition — 25 percent                                                  0      |    25

Quality wins — 20 percent                                                                           ?      |      ?

Coaches Ranking — 15 percent                                                                   15    |     0

Results against common opponents — 10 percent                                     10    |      0

RPI — 10 percent                                                                                            10  |     0 

Qualifying event placement — 10 percent                                                    0    |   10

Win % — 10 percent                                                                                        5    |   5

Just now, flyingcement said:

1. Keegan O'Toole

2. Mitchell Mesenbrink

3. David Carr

4. Dean Hamiti

5. Julian Ramirez

That's not how it works

Just now, Pinnacle said:

Ramirez h2h over Carr gets him the 3. 

Yes, that's how the formula works. They also have the same winning % and Ramirez has a conference championship.  He'll score higher on the formula

#1 O'Toole #2 Mesenbrink #3 Ramirez #4 Carr #5 Hamiti....I get it no one wants a Carr/O' Toole semis but Ramirez has the head to head and a conference championship

2 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

yeah that definitely makes it hard to do that as the committee I just don't know they want KOT vs Carr in the semis but I may be projecting because I also do not want that.

No one wants it but you can't punish Ramirez for winning the head to head and winning his conference.  That's part of the formula they use for seeding

Just now, Truzzcat said:

could see the seeding committee putting Carr over Ramirez since they can move within one of what the formula spits out

Ramirez has the head to head

Just now, CHROMEBIRD said:

Who do you like in a KOT-Hamiti scramble?

KOT all the way

Seeds #1 O'Toole #2 Mesenbrink #3 Ramirez #4 Carr # 5 Hamiti?

15 minutes ago, Pish said:

Losses don’t come into play.

Good Point.  Quality wins is 20% which I believe Davis should have another advantage

Just now, ionel said:

Jimmy ... is that you?

OH MY GOD!  This is how it happens.  All these years I didn't realize how it happened to Jimmy.  Thank you for saving my life Ionel

22 minutes ago, Maxwell Smart said:

Props to T&T, are you serious? You're headed to 3-4th every year, and that's just theBig Ten. 

I'm a PSU fan

1 minute ago, pawrestler said:

Truly passionate about continued education

1 minute ago, Paul158 said:

165 will be the premier weight at the NCAA's . Mesenbrink and O'Toole were coached by Askren and were on the same team. 

& Mesenbrink's dad John

Just now, Pinnacle said:

Does it matter when 8 can beat 1 as often as the other way around.

Not this year

3 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Davis giving up bonus to Caleb Smith was a noteworthy consideration that I consider worth of bringing to the table.  I think Davis is the more likely number one, but concede an argument to be made for Stanich

Fair point.  Wonder if the loss to Jax Forrest will play into it at all even if it's not officially on Stanich's record for seeding

1 minute ago, flyingcement said:

Stanich could also make an argument, but Davis should be 2 at worst

At this point Braeden has far more better wins and far better losses.  Hard to see him not jumping Stanich

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Probably.  He has better wins and better losses than all the other conference champs

Props to T&T for putting out a formidable team after getting decimated with the gambling probe

Don't understand Feldman's strategy.  He lives off reattacks.  Diving in on Kerk isn't going to get it done