Don't Vote

[Undefeated]

I think elections are just the flip side of modern-day slavery. It’s all a game between the rich and powerful - whoever’s got more money, more connections, and better media control ends up winning.

You really think you have a say in your future? They line up voters at the ballot box, and the guy with the fattest wallet and the biggest media machine comes out on top.

Just look at who’s been elected president in the past few decades - it’s a joke. Jimmy and Mimmy go cast their votes, and somehow they end up with Trump or Biden making decisions that affect people like Chomsky or John Searle!

If you picked someone randomly off the street, chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House.

It’s easy to imagine how much Chomsky must’ve struggled when he voted for Biden, calling it "a tactical vote to prevent a worse disaster" - basically choosing between the lesser of two evils:

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It's important to vote Democratic, but we should be under no illusions that voting Democratic will save us.

Why do people have to pick between bad and worse? Because most folks don't boycott the elections, and that keeps this ugly cycle of choosing from the worst options going on and on.

[JimmySpeaks]

No matter who we end up with it won’t be as bad as the supreme leader you bow down to.  

[JimmySpeaks]

8 hours ago, Undefeated said:

I think elections are just the flip side of modern-day slavery. It’s all a game between the rich and powerful - whoever’s got more money, more connections, and better media control ends up winning.

You really think you have a say in your future? They line up voters at the ballot box, and the guy with the fattest wallet and the biggest media machine comes out on top.

Just look at who’s been elected president in the past few decades - it’s a joke. Jimmy and Mimmy go cast their votes, and somehow they end up with Trump or Biden making decisions that affect people like Chomsky or John Searle!

If you picked someone randomly off the street, chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House.

It’s easy to imagine how much Chomsky must’ve struggled when he voted for Biden, calling it "a tactical vote to prevent a worse disaster" - basically choosing between the lesser of two evils:

Why do people have to pick between bad and worse? Because most folks don't boycott the elections, and that keeps this ugly cycle of choosing from the worst options going on and on.

Goat boy from a third world crap hole ripping on a country that has free elections and 200,000,000 that would like to move here.  Priceless 

[Bigbrog]

Just what we need...another poster with completely outrageous and ignorant posts.  I thought at first he may be okay and I could learn from someone who thinks and lived a different life, but he is reaching, and may have gone past, RV level craziness.

[JimmySpeaks]

Clearly a phony.  He’s no different than any of the far left wokesters on here.  
Dollars to donuts he’s from a blue city in a blue state and one of the 45% of the people in the country that pays zero federal income tax.  

Edited yesterday at 01:28 PM by JimmySpeaks

[mspart]

13 hours ago, Undefeated said:

picked someone randomly off the street, chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House.

Have you seen those video of people off the street that don't know where the capital of the US is?  People who don't know who the first president was?  When the civil war was fought and who fought it?    Yep some random guy would be better.  

mspart

[Undefeated]

30 minutes ago, mspart said:

Have you seen those video of people off the street that don't know where the capital of the US is?  People who don't know who the first president was?  When the civil war was fought and who fought it?    Yep some random guy would be better.  

mspart

Those people in the videos you mentioned are the product of the same broken system that puts guys like Trump or Biden in charge.

[red viking]

Ranked voting would be much better

[mspart]

1 hour ago, Undefeated said:

Those people in the videos you mentioned are the product of the same broken system that puts guys like Trump or Biden in charge.

I do not deny that.   But they would do a better job?   That stretches incredulity.

mspart

[Undefeated]

10 minutes ago, mspart said:

I do not deny that.   But they would do a better job?   That stretches incredulity.

mspart

Nah, I never said random people off the street should be running the country. That’s not what I meant at all. If you’ve got time, check out this article.

[Undefeated]

That article’s about how the media shapes and controls public opinion in the U.S.. If you don’t have time to read the whole thing, just take a look at this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Noam_Chomsky?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

Criticism of United States democracy

Chomsky maintains that a nation is only democratic to the degree that government policy reflects informed public opinion. He notes that the US does have formal democratic structures, but they are dysfunctional. He argues that presidential elections are funded by concentrations of private power and orchestrated by the public relations industry, focusing discussion primarily on the qualities and the image of a candidate rather than on issues.^[55] Chomsky makes reference to several studies of public opinion by pollsters such as Gallup and Zogby and by academic sources such as the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland (PIPA). Quoting polls taken near the 2004 election, Chomsky points out that only a small minority of voters said they voted because of the candidate's "agendas/ideas/platforms/goals."^[55] Furthermore, studies show that the majority of Americans have a stance on domestic issues such as guaranteed health care that is not represented by either major party.^[56] Chomsky has contrasted US elections with elections in countries such as Spain, Bolivia, and Brazil, where he claims people are far better informed on important issues.^[57]

[JimmySpeaks]

Chomsky is one of those people involved in private power.  FOR THE LEFT sooooooooo

[mspart]

1 hour ago, Undefeated said:

Nah, I never said random people off the street should be running the country. That’s not what I meant at all. If you’ve got time, check out this article.

You might try reading your own posts.   You said it, now own it. 

16 hours ago, Undefeated said:

If you picked someone randomly off the street, chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House.

mspart

[mspart]

There is lots to criticize about American politics and democracy.   That's why plenty are coming here from other countries.   It's so bad here we import more folks than any other nation.   It's so bad .....

mspart

[Undefeated]

12 minutes ago, mspart said:

You might try reading your own posts.   You said it, now own it. 

mspart

Does that sentence mean some random person should be running the country? Of course not. I shared those links to help make the point clearer.

When the majority boycotts elections, it takes the power away from the billionaires. It forces the system to actually turn to experts to build something fair. Voting in these rigged elections just gives people the illusion that they’re in control of their future.

If you read the article I linked, Chomsky lays it all out - how U.S. presidential elections aren’t all that different from a dictatorship when you get down to it.

[Caveira]

17 hours ago, Undefeated said:

If you picked someone randomly off the street, chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House.

 

2 hours ago, Undefeated said:

I never said random people off the street

 

[Undefeated]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

 

 

Haha! Classic move - chopping up a sentence to twist it. Why’d you leave out the second part?

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I never said random people off the street should be running the country.

 

[Caveira]

16 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

Haha! Classic move - chopping up a sentence to twist it. Why’d you leave out the second part?

 

Ok.   If they are “more” qualified shouldn’t they be running the country instead of half the “clowns”?

[Undefeated]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Ok.   If they are “more” qualified shouldn’t they be running the country instead of half the “clowns”?

Alright, if you’re not even trying to understand the actual point, won’t click the links I shared, and just wanna play the sentence-chopping game, then yeah -
"If you picked someone randomly off the street, chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House."

At the very least, if you wanna understand what "random" means and how random selection actually works, take a minute to read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_random_sample

Then yes:
"chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House."

[Offthemat]

Only the best serve in Iran?

[JimmySpeaks]

35 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Only the best serve in Iran?

Yep. Only the “Supreme Leader” best 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Undefeated said:

Alright, if you’re not even trying to understand the actual point, won’t click the links I shared, and just wanna play the sentence-chopping game, then yeah -
"If you picked someone randomly off the street, chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House."

At the very least, if you wanna understand what "random" means and how random selection actually works, take a minute to read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_random_sample

Then yes:
"chances are they’d be more qualified than half the clowns who end up in the White House."

Rate the last set of presidents on a scale of “clown” to “not clown” in your estimation.   

trump 

biden 

trump

Obama 

Gw bush 

Clinton 

George hw bush 

Regan 

Carter 

 

 

 

 

 

[Undefeated]

51 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Rate the last set of presidents on a scale of “clown” to “not clown” in your estimation.   

trump 

biden 

trump

Obama 

Gw bush 

Clinton 

George hw bush 

Regan 

Carter 

 

 

 

 

 

Take a look at that list yourself. If I were an American citizen, maybe at first glance I'd separate Carter from the rest. But Carter pulled support from the Shah and helped Khomeini rise to power in Iran - and that move planted a cancer in the region. Now even the U.S. has to spend billions every year just to contain the fallout and deal with the terrorism that came out of it.

[red viking]

This country has become garbage. I'm embarrassed that I served in the military. 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, Undefeated said:

Take a look at that list yourself. If I were an American citizen, maybe at first glance I'd separate Carter from the rest. But Carter pulled support from the Shah and helped Khomeini rise to power in Iran - and that move planted a cancer in the region. Now even the U.S. has to spend billions every year just to contain the fallout and deal with the terrorism that came out of it.

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