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3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Ok I changed it to human.  Still need a suggestion.  After ramming  police car how should they apprehend him.  Ask nicely?

 

those are specific to break down doors.   They aren’t dangerous for those inside.   The news is just being emotional as usual. 

They used explosives on the windows.  Exploding windows aren’t dangerous to the people inside?

Yes, they should have knocked on the door.  He was not accused of “trying to kill” anyone, and he had already been questioned once and released

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

They used explosives on the windows.  Exploding windows aren’t dangerous to the people inside?

Yes, they should have knocked on the door.  He was not accused of “trying to kill” anyone, and he had already been questioned once and released

I only saw the door.  Post a pic that’s a long azz vid     They said the window was broken. 
 

prolly one of these.  Safe for those inside.   
 

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

They used explosives on the windows.  Exploding windows aren’t dangerous to the people inside?

Yes, they should have knocked on the door.  He was not accused of “trying to kill” anyone, and he had already been questioned once and released

lol.  Classic exaggeration did you even watch your own video?
 

the news dude said quote.   Shattered the window.  The lady / girlfriend said quote “they shattered the window first” then blew the door.

you can even see a device similar to what I posted being placed on the door. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Ring camera captures border patrol using explosives, busting down door of US citizens’ home with 1 and 6 year old children inside.

They were looking for a man accused of “ramming” a border patrol vehicle, although he was questioned and released at the time of the incident.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/huntington-park-border-patrol-agents-door-explosion/3734095/

talk to roger stone

he wasn't suspected of violence

 

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Ring camera captures border patrol using explosives, busting down door of US citizens’ home with 1 and 6 year old children inside.

They were looking for a man accused of “ramming” a border patrol vehicle, although he was questioned and released at the time of the incident.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/huntington-park-border-patrol-agents-door-explosion/3734095/

 

Posted
42 minutes ago, Caveira said:

lol.  Classic exaggeration did you even watch your own video?
 

the news dude said quote.   Shattered the window.  The lady / girlfriend said quote “they shattered the window first” then blew the door.

you can even see a device similar to what I posted being placed on the door. 

So they used explosives somewhere, and the window shattered, correct?

Posted

Ramirez said she assumed the operation might have something to do with a collision a week ago in the city of Industry. Her boyfriend was behind the wheel of a Jeep when he ran into the back of a truck carrying federal agents, Ramirez said.

 

and they said he was free to go.. i bet

Posted
1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

why would someone alert her to border patrol vehicles in the area?

 

loudest explosion she had ever heard.

doesn't look early...not even predawn

A dozen agents, an armored truck, and explosives.

For a guy who at worst hit a border patrol vehicle with his car.

Someone call DOGE

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

So they used explosives somewhere, and the window shattered, correct?

They’re safe.  And common for law enforcement to use.  Literally used across the country.   Try not impeding Leo’s investigation you won’t be crying on the channel 9 news.  
 

again. They impeded  federal life investigation by ramming their car into law enforcement’s vehicle.  
 

do you want them to just politely ask to turn yourself in like in the movies ?

Posted
7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

They’re safe.  And common for law enforcement to use.  Literally used across the country.   Try not impeding Leo’s investigation you won’t be crying on the channel 9 news.  
 

again. They impeded  federal life investigation by ramming their car into law enforcement’s vehicle.  
 

do you want them to just politely ask to turn yourself in like in the movies ?

Good to know that shattering a window is safe for infants!

Posted
8 minutes ago, Caveira said:

They’re safe.  And common for law enforcement to use.  Literally used across the country.   Try not impeding Leo’s investigation you won’t be crying on the channel 9 news.  
 

again. They impeded  federal life investigation by ramming their car into law enforcement’s vehicle.  
 

do you want them to just politely ask to turn yourself in like in the movies ?

He was questioned and released at the time of the incident.   If what he did was so bad they should have taken him in right then.

“Ramming” is likely an exaggeration.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Good to know that shattering a window is safe for infants!

In the video it stated.  The kids were sleeping in the room with their mother with the door closed so yes.     You assume they didn’t peek in the window before breaking it?  It takes some time to set the door charge.    Super safe for the kids yes 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

In the video it stated.  The kids were sleeping in the room with their mother with the door closed so yes.     You assume they didn’t peek in the window before breaking it?  It takes some time to set the door charge.    Super safe for the kids yes 

Considering they brought a dozen guys and an armored truck to arrest someone who at worst hit another vehicle with his own, no, I’m not sure that is a safe assumption.

So again, good to know shattering a window is safe for infants!

Posted
Just now, 1032004 said:

Considering they brought a dozen guys and an armored truck to arrest someone who at worst hit another vehicle with his own, no, I’m not sure that is a safe assumption.

So again, good to know shattering a window is safe for infants!

The infants were not even in the room according to the video.   And according to the mother.  They were in their bedroom with her with the door closed. 
 

was she screaming hysterically that glass went all over her kids.   I promise you she would have been had that happened.  

Posted
2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

The infants were not even in the room according to the video.   And according to the mother.  They were in their bedroom with her with the door closed. 
 

was she screaming hysterically that glass went all over her kids.   I promise you she would have been had that happened.  

Correct, Border Patrol is extremely lucky that didn’t happen

Posted
2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Considering they brought a dozen guys and an armored truck to arrest someone who at worst hit another vehicle with his own, no, I’m not sure that is a safe assumption.

So again, good to know shattering a window is safe for infants!

It’s apparently a tactic police use too.  So there is that.  It’s called dynamic entry and it’s for LEOs safety.   

When law enforcement breaches both a door and a window during an apprehension, they’re usually executing a "dynamic entry"—a coordinated tactic designed to gain swift, safe control of the environment. Here’s why multiple entry points are used:


🚪 1. Minimizing Risk in the "Fatal Funnel"

  • The door is the obvious entry point—but it's also a danger zone, sometimes called a "fatal funnel," where officers are most vulnerable to armed suspects anambcn.org+4thefreelibrary.com+4keyt.com+4.

  • Breaching through a window simultaneously helps divide the suspect’s attention, reducing the risk that everyone will be shot at the door.


🧩 2. Surprise + Speed = Safety

  • Law enforcement teams often used flashbangs, door rams, window tools, or even ballistic shotguns to breach simultaneously through more than one opening. This surprised the suspect, preventing them from preparing or destroying evidence .

  • Multiple entry points allow better tactical coverage—officers from different directions securing different rooms quickly .

🛠️ 3. Gear + Tactics

  • SWAT and tactical teams are trained in hydraulic, mechanical, ballistic, or even explosive breaching tools to enter through doors or windows efficiently

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Correct, Border Patrol is extremely lucky that didn’t happen

Perhaps they peeked.   I mean that appears to be LEO protocol too.    This is fun.  Anything else they did right ?   Please add comments.  
 

maybe there is a reason the news edited down the vid to only show the door breech and the big bad menacing vehicle.  News programs never have an agenda or an axe to grind. 
 

Before conducting a dynamic entry, it's standard police/SWAT protocol to gather intelligence and assess the interior layout—including whether children, vulnerable people, or dangerous animals are inside—before breaching any doors or windows.


🔍 1. Pre-entry intelligence gathering

  • Before executing, teams conduct surveillance and drive-by checks to identify signs—like children's toys or vehicles—indicating kids or vulnerable individuals may be presentpolice1.com+14dallaspolice.net+14swatmag.com+14.

  • They interview neighbors, family members, or informants to confirm who is inside and whether anyone especially vulnerable (children, elderly, pets) needs special consideration .

  • If intelligence suggests minors are present, many departments avoid dynamic entries altogether, opting for slower, safer methods dallaspolice.net.


🚪 2. Visual and audio room assessment (“peek”)

  • Tactical entry teams often use “peek” or visual sweep methods before entry—opening a crack or using mirrors/cameras to scan the interior reddit.com+14andrearatulowski.com+14police1.com+14.

  • They listen for voices, movement, or signs of children or innocents, and may call out “Police! Anyone inside!” to prompt occupants to reveal themselves .


👥 3. Confirming safe entry point

  • Once occupancy is confirmed, officers still decide whether to enter through a door or window depending on tactical factors: structure layout, presence of booby traps, line of sight, or potential for surprise .

  • The protocol emphasizes clearing from safe positions first—using stealth, limited penetration, or breach-and-hold—rather than rushing in blindly

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