Today's college graduates have a ....

[Tripnsweep]

2 hours ago, El Luchador said:

I went to college when it had a liberal bias, I went back 20+ years later when it was a complete commie indoctrination program. I don't need to hear the limited experience of a boys first time leaving home thinking that has worldly knowledge and experience after a time period people measured in months and not decades. 

My college I graduated from was pretty liberal but always had a dash of conservative flair. There's no indoctrination going on. I can tell you that because teachers have a hard enough time getting people to pay attention. Especially in classes with 200-300 people. How the hell are they going to do that? Half the people in those stop showing up after the first week or two. 

I'm sure there are some majors or degree plans that require a lot of obscure history or anthropology courses where the class is taught from an objective point of view where everything America did wasn't justified. And you can argue that the civil war was about states rights, or that committing genocide against natives was ok because they had slaves/started it. But those things are patently false. 

So because something breaks norms of what you were taught in grade school, doesn't mean it has any kind of political bend to it. It just means teaching has evolved and there is more/better information now due to long term research and study. 

[Bigbrog]

I can't really speak to the actual facts around any sort of indoctrination in college these days as it has been 30 years since I was in college; however, I do have a couple of questions/thoughts...I wonder if the class/degree types have changed considerably over the years?  Other question/thought is why dose it seem like the college campuses tend to be on the extreme side of certain societal issues/debates (mostly leftist views) that result in extreme protest/riots?

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

7 hours ago, El Luchador said:

I went to college when it had a liberal bias, I went back 20+ years later when it was a complete commie indoctrination program. I don't need to hear the limited experience of a boys first time leaving home thinking that has worldly knowledge and experience after a time period people measured in months and not decades. 

Sure sounds a lot like, "I tried wrestling in middle school, but I got my ass kicked by a girl. I went back in high school, but by then all the time playing video games had made me soft and whiny so I called the sport gay and left."

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

21 hours ago, El Luchador said:

Even more alarming, a study by independent research firm Workplace Intelligence in partnership with Hult International Business School found that 37% of employers would hire AI over a young graduate. 

 

With 96% of employers agreeing that colleges are falling short in preparing students for the workforce, the statistics reveal a growing disconnect between employer expectations and the readiness of graduates.

 

Can you not read? 96% think colleges are falling short. They don't approve, 4% of respondents feel the opposite. 4% are happy with today's college graduates. Employers are dropping college requirements because they need workers not activists. But whatever you do keep doing the same think. A bunch of unemployed leftists will probably motivate change.  The 19% approval that today's dem party has definitely speaks of an inability to recognize trends. A brainwashed idiot serves no purpose in the success of a company. 

So to reiterate the clear point of the study, by a massive margin, hiring managers think today's graduates are not employable and many companies would rather hire an Alabama trailer trash meth smoker than a guaranteed idiot that needs to be deprogrammed before they can be properly trained.  But hey it's not like people saw this coming. Now go back to your safe place. 

Post a link to the actual study or stop pretending you aren't pulling this out of your ass.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Post a link to the actual study or stop pretending you aren't pulling this out of your ass.

64% of business leaders have concerns with hiring recent college grads: report

Poor work ethic, few practical skills, and pro-Palestine protest participation are all factors, according to new data.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

64% of business leaders have concerns with hiring recent college grads: report

Poor work ethic, few practical skills, and pro-Palestine protest participation are all factors, according to new data.

More goatse quotes from you.

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

More goatse quotes from you.

even sounds like you lol 
 

The reasons offered as to why pro-Palestine protesters can be labeled as unhirable vary. Among those who say they’re less likely to hire a candidate if they are aware of such participation, the concerns include the tendency to be too confrontational (63%), too political (59%), making their peers uncomfortable (55%), being a liability (45%) and posing a danger to those around them (40%).

Edited June 4 by Caveira

[El Luchador]

10 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Yeah, you might want to go back to School a 3rd time if you're that ignorant.

I already walked you through this. YOU think he was on the "left" because of the name of the party(a name that was used as a pejorative term initially). 

He banned unions. 

He quite literally PROSECUTED Communists and Socialists. 

He also banned both parties. 

He was an Ethno-nationalist authoritarian...who...again, quite literally banned unions, socialist, communists and locked them up and put them in Prison. If you still haven't wrapped your head around the fact that he's far-right, you're just special boy...

 

You're not only wrong here, you're comically wrong. 

 

 

Unlike you I don't need someone telling me what and how to think.  I'm sure you were told by leftist profs that  one of the most evil leftists in history wasn't a leftist.  Unlike you I can analyze information and make my own conclusions. Another skill employers desire but colleges can't deliver on.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

3 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Unlike you I don't need someone telling me what and how to think.  I'm sure you were told by leftist profs that  one of the most evil leftists in history wasn't a leftist.  Unlike you I can analyze information and make my own conclusions. Another skill employers desire but colleges can't deliver on.

Objection!

Assumes facts not in evidence.

[El Luchador]

4 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Post a link to the actual study or stop pretending you aren't pulling this out of your ass.

I'm not jumping through hoops. It wouldn't matter if I did you'd go full head in the sand and I'd be responsible for you forgetting to breathe.  The information is clear. It's not a political hit piece, you're just offended by the information.  Anyone with a brain will come to the same conclusion through their own experience. I know I did, but the study breaks it down so even an arrogant leftist can understand it if the choose to.

[El Luchador]

4 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Objection!

Assumes facts not in evidence.

All you have are childish insults, that the first clue you're getting it handed to you.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

1 hour ago, El Luchador said:

All you have are childish insults, that the first clue you're getting it handed to you.

I'm simply laughing at your flailing and self pwnage here.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

1 hour ago, El Luchador said:

I'm not jumping through hoops. It wouldn't matter if I did you'd go full head in the sand and I'd be responsible for you forgetting to breathe.  The information is clear. It's not a political hit piece, you're just offended by the information.  Anyone with a brain will come to the same conclusion through their own experience. I know I did, but the study breaks it down so even an arrogant leftist can understand it if the choose to.

You made the claim. You have the burden of proof.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Maybe you should have stayed in school?

Edited June 5 by Saylors_Tiny_Willie

[El Luchador]

Just now, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

You made the claim. You have the burden of proof.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Maybe you should have stayed in school?

You don't care about evidence.  You just can't handle the truth. 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

Just now, El Luchador said:

You don't care about evidence.  You just can't handle the truth. 

You won't show us this mysterious and ephemeral proof you constantly tout.

We are all on tenterhooks awaiting the Great Reveal!

[El Luchador]

2 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

You won't show us this mysterious and ephemeral proof you constantly tout.

We are all on tenterhooks awaiting the Great Reveal!

The facts remain weather or not you accept them. Like I said intelligent people already know this to be true. Companies don't drop their college requirements because they want worse hires. Ask Budwiser how things work out when you hire someone with an agenda counter to your Companies needs. A community college 2 year marketing graduate is better than an Ivy league activist.

[JimmySpeaks]

7 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Sure sounds a lot like, "I tried wrestling in middle school, but I got my ass kicked by a girl. I went back in high school, but by then all the time playing video games had made me soft and whiny so I called the sport gay and left."

This sounds like what you lived through 

[El Luchador]

7 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

This sounds like what you lived through 

He has some oddly detailed stories.  

Edited June 5 by El Luchador

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

He has some oddly detailed stories.  

Ya that one is coocoo for Cocoa Puffs 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

13 hours ago, El Luchador said:

The facts remain weather or not you accept them. Like I said intelligent people already know this to be true. Companies don't drop their college requirements because they want worse hires. Ask Budwiser how things work out when you hire someone with an agenda counter to your Companies needs. A community college 2 year marketing graduate is better than an Ivy league activist.

Post your evidence.

[El Luchador]

2 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Post your evidence.

I clearly did. Everything is listed in the article.  

[scourge165]

22 hours ago, El Luchador said:

Unlike you I don't need someone telling me what and how to think.  I'm sure you were told by leftist profs that  one of the most evil leftists in history wasn't a leftist.  Unlike you I can analyze information and make my own conclusions. Another skill employers desire but colleges can't deliver on.

I like how the entire basis for your argument Hitler isn't the epitome of a right wing extremists is just...'nuh-uh.' 

You can keep talking about my "leftist" professors all you'd like, he wasn't. It's a fact, he banned the socialist parties, he hated communists, I've given you numerous reasons and you are just not capable of understanding it. And that's fine. 

 

Hitler was a Nationalist, Ethnocentric, Authoritarian. You act like I'm calling you that(though...you have called me a Communist despite the fact that I've never uttered a positive word about communists, Mao or the like) but you can't accept Hitler was on the opposite end of the spectrum as Stalin and Mao. 

Cool. 

 

Neither represent ANYTHING we've EVER had as a form of leadership in the United States, but this is still an important point for you for...some reason I guess. You're wrong, but you're confidently wrong...so that's something I suppose. 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

4 hours ago, El Luchador said:

I clearly did. Everything is listed in the article.  

Post it again, please.

Post the raw data with crosstabs.

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Post it again, please.

Post the raw data with crosstabs.

Crosstabs????  Does that help you post a picture you can actually see/read?  If so use it 

[scourge165]

On 6/4/2025 at 10:20 AM, Bigbrog said:

I can't really speak to the actual facts around any sort of indoctrination in college these days as it has been 30 years since I was in college; however, I do have a couple of questions/thoughts...I wonder if the class/degree types have changed considerably over the years?  Other question/thought is why dose it seem like the college campuses tend to be on the extreme side of certain societal issues/debates (mostly leftist views) that result in extreme protest/riots?

I don't think this is some new phenomenon. I think it's always been like this. 

I think one big thing is you have 18-year-old kids who come from conservative backgrounds(just part of it) and they get to College and they learn History and there is an...overcorrection. They learn some ugly truths, but they learn them about the US first and there is very much an "America-Bad," reaction. They used modern morality and apply it to the past... which is always... stupid. It's how you get people who want Lincoln statutes taken down.

I also think like anything, you see a lot of group think. 

And finally, I think in MOST cases, you have a minority of students who get a majority of the spotlight. 

You read Marx and Engels and you think... that makes sense...and it does in theory. And then as you matriculate through, you realize it's only in theory(most of the time) and you abandon that. 

 

I don't think it has anything to do with "indoctrination," and I don't think the College students protesting who are pro-Hamas represent a real significant portion of the College students... and I think they should have mostly been arrested. Not for chanting or protesting, but the ones who wouldn't leave. I also found the students who tried to dictate how the Universities invested their money to be... honestly just amusing. I don't know WTF they thought they were, but... I just laughed at that one.