August Wesley update - Hall of Famer!

[Tripnsweep]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Does this dude google his name like everyday or something?  Lol, that must be how he gets his embellishment skills 

That's what narcissists do. 

[Animal197]

I was looking into this HOF and their credentials. Does anyone know what exactly self-identified means in this context? Does this mean you claim and you are a member of one of the recognized groups?

[1032004]

26 minutes ago, Animal197 said:

I was looking into this HOF and their credentials. Does anyone know what exactly self-identified means in this context? Does this mean you claim and you are a member of one of the recognized groups?

I was wondering, so he’s claiming to be both a “North American Indigenous” person, and from Cape Verde?  I’m no geography or history expert, are there many North American Indigenous people in Cape Verde, off the coast of Africa?

[Tripnsweep]

29 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I was wondering, so he’s claiming to be both a “North American Indigenous” person, and from Cape Verde?  I’m no geography or history expert, are there many North American Indigenous people in Cape Verde, off the coast of Africa?

I don't think he's claiming to be from Cabo Verde, not Cape Verde. He got citizenship by descent. Just like how Myles Amine isn't from San Marino, or Gennady Tulbea isn't from Monaco. 

[1032004]

12 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

I don't think he's claiming to be from Cabo Verde, not Cape Verde. He got citizenship by descent. Just like how Myles Amine isn't from San Marino, or Gennady Tulbea isn't from Monaco. 

But isn’t “by descent” also how he’s claiming to be an indigenous person?  I guess it could be one from his mom and one from his dad…

[Tripnsweep]

58 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

But isn’t “by descent” also how he’s claiming to be an indigenous person?  I guess it could be one from his mom and one from his dad…

Being indigenous just means you have a family lineage that can be documented and enough of your parentage is indigenous or native or whatever. A coach I know one of his parents is half native of some tribe, so because of that he's an enrolled tribal member who gets certain benefits. As far as I know he's never lived on a reservation or really done anything with the tribal community besides become an enrolled member. So I assume that Wesley is in a similar boat, he has some familial connections and claims that. Then again the hall of fame does say "self identity" so maybe they've never asked him to prove it or the records that prove it got lost or the building they were in burned down. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

9 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

I don't think he's claiming to be from Cabo Verde, not Cape Verde. He got citizenship by descent. Just like how Myles Amine isn't from San Marino, or Gennady Tulbea isn't from Monaco. 

Cabo Verde IS Cape Verde!

"Cape" is the anglicized version of the Portuguese "Cabo."

[Tripnsweep]

1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Cabo Verde IS Cape Verde!

"Cape" is the anglicized version of the Portuguese "Cabo."

The name was officially changed. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

The name was officially changed. 

Incorrect and a poor attempt at a cover up of your lack of knowledge and of "cognates"

It has been Cabo Verde since 1444.

Edited 6 hours ago by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[Jason Bryant]

“In 2013, the country's delegation informed the United Nations that only Cabo Verde and not other translations should be used for official purposes.”

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, Jason Bryant said:

“In 2013, the country's delegation informed the United Nations that only Cabo Verde and not other translations should be used for official purposes.”

Right... that's not officially changed.  Not changed at all.  Not since 1444.

They just don't want people using any name other than "Cabo Verde" for official purposes.  That would be like Germany insisting on "Deutschland;" Japan insisting on "Nippon;" etc.

It has been Cabo Verde since 1444.  

 

[Jason Bryant]

25 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Right... that's not officially changed.  Not changed at all.  Not since 1444.

They just don't want people using any name other than "Cabo Verde" for official purposes.  That would be like Germany insisting on "Deutschland;" Japan insisting on "Nippon;" etc.

It has been Cabo Verde since 1444.  

 

I'm not disagreeing with the origin or the entomology of the name. I introduce it "Cabo Verde" when they show up on the mat ... but every single map I ever saw until 2013 (and many after that) say "Cape Verde" - I'm a bit of a geography and map nerd. I think it might be a reach to assume that even if the country name itself hasn't changed since 1444, the general public would know this, and even less likely fans of wrestling. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said:

I'm not disagreeing with the origin or the entomology of the name. I introduce it "Cabo Verde" when they show up on the mat ... but every single map I ever saw until 2013 (and many after that) say "Cape Verde" - I'm a bit of a geography and map nerd. I think it might be a reach to assume that even if the country name itself hasn't changed since 1444, the general public would know this, and even less likely fans of wrestling. 

Yes, because you went to school in the US. We use a lot of English here.  It still says Cape Verde on the map in the room that I am in now.  They have just asked that everyone call them "Cabo Verde" at the UN, Olympics, etc.  

I assume you say "Deutschland" at international competitions?

[1032004]

23 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said:

I think it might be a reach to assume that even if the country name itself hasn't changed since 1444, the general public would know this, and even less likely fans of wrestling. 

What are you trying to say, wrestling fans are not as smart as the general public  ?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

For all of August Wesley's wrestling accomplishment I can't seem to find a single video of him competing in wrestling on YouTube.  Odd.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

15 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

For all of August Wesley's wrestling accomplishment I can't seem to find a single video of him competing in wrestling on YouTube.  Odd.

I only found Wes Wesley.

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Yes, because you went to school in the US. We use a lot of English here.  It still says Cape Verde on the map in the room that I am in now.  They have just asked that everyone call them "Cabo Verde" at the UN, Olympics, etc.  

I assume you say "Deutschland" at international competitions?

August’s son Anthony called it Cape Verde in this video

https://www.kttc.com/2024/10/31/anthony-wesley-pursues-two-passions-mat/

[1032004]

Do we think this is a real quote from Kevin Jackson?

https://iowastatedaily.com/281891/sports/make-it-happen-anthony-wesleys-journey-to-become-an-olympian-iowa-state-international-wrestling-august-wesley-kevin-jackson-olympics-paris-tokyo-world-stage-championship-born-to-wrestle/

“August also wrestled for a majority of his life and was a collegiate wrestler. August wrestled for Sunkist Kids Wrestling Club, where former Iowa State wrestling head coach Kevin Jackson also wrestled around the same time.

The two, August and Jackson, won several national championships while on the same freestyle team.

“That built a bond between me and him, and we are trying to accomplish the same things—so our goals are similar. We got to know each other pretty well during that time,” Jackson said.”

I like how then it says August and Kevin Jackson lost touch because August “moved on to bigger and better things.”

I know in one of the other threads it was mentioned that Anthony did actually register a few international wins.  He was on the roster at ISU for 3 years, won a bunch of matches against D2/D3/JC/NAIA guys but only had 2 D1 wins, surprisingly one over former R16 finisher Vince Turk of Iowa.

https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/40221/wesley-anthony/profile
 

Edited 3 hours ago by 1032004

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

August’s son Anthony called it Cape Verde in this video

https://www.kttc.com/2024/10/31/anthony-wesley-pursues-two-passions-mat/

lol Because that is how we say it in the English language.  The French say "Cap-Vert."

Cabo Verde just wants us to say "Cabo Verde" in official circumstances.  That's all.  there has never been a name change.

Being from the isle of Nevis, I understand these things.

Heck, most of the western hemisphere calls us "Estados Unidos."

It doesn't change the fact: August Wesley is a turd burger in any language.

 

[Jason Bryant]

4 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I assume you say "Deutschland" at international competitions?

On occasion. I typically stick with the IOC preferences - I never say North Korea, for example. I may drop a Nippon in a celebratory call, but medals podiums and mat calls/win calls are all by the book. Turkiye, Czechia, Côte d'Ivoire ... Germany.

[Tripnsweep]

5 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Incorrect and a poor attempt at a cover up of your lack of knowledge and of "cognates"

It has been Cabo Verde since 1444.

I have an undergrad degree in geography. So I have some ideas about these things.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

31 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

I have an undergrad degree in geography. So I have some ideas about these things.

You clearly did not above.  Did you get one in the last several hours?  

I actually coaches a Cape Verdian.  (Not named Wesley) You've never met one.