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[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

5 minutes ago, okokzach said:

Best wrestler among presidents for sure 

Maybe. Did he win states?

[okokzach]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Maybe. Did he win states?

Honest Abe won state for sure 

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, okokzach said:

Honest Abe won state for sure 

Jacob won Universe

[TNwrestling]

18 minutes ago, ionel said:

Jacob won Universe

Jacob from the bible? He was 0-1

[PortaJohn]

28 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Maybe. Did he win states?

Scored 180 points in 1860 snagging 18 states.  Scored 212 in 1864 with an additional 17 bonus points.  Carried 22 states but also picked up another 2 at the All Star Classic

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

Jacob from the bible? He was 0-1

Did they count medical forfeits as a loss back in who knows when BC

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

Jacob from the bible? He was 0-1

You sure about that:  “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,^[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

3 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Scored 180 points in 1860 snagging 18 states.  Scored 212 in 1864 with an additional 17 bonus points.  Carried 22 states but also picked up another 2 at the All Star Classic

Got zero point in almost half the states!

[PortaJohn]

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Got zero point in almost half the states!

Hence the wrestling curse of SEC country plus Rutgers 

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Scored 180 points in 1860 snagging 18 states.  Scored 212 in 1864 with an additional 17 bonus points.  Carried 22 states but also picked up another 2 at the All Star Classic

... but how many pinfalls?  Asking for my swim friend.  

[PortaJohn]

8 minutes ago, ionel said:

... but how many pinfalls?  Asking for my swim friend.  

Sewing or safety pins?  Push pins weren't invented unto the 20th century.  And it's really hard to judge how many pins would've have fallen in 1864.  Don't know how one could even calculate that

[TNwrestling]

22 minutes ago, ionel said:

You sure about that:  “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,^[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

yes, the angel touched his hip and popped it out of its socket and that was the end of the "match".  jacob didnt win. he Inj Def. 

 

besides all that, Lincoln's record is tangible and real. the bible is myth, parables, stories, fiction. 

Edited 23 hours ago by TNwrestling

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

yes, the angel touched his hip and popped it out of its socket and that was the end of the "match".  jacob didnt win. he Inj Def. 

He didn't default he kept going.

When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. ²⁶ Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

[TNwrestling]

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

He didn't default he kept going.

When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. ²⁶ Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

Regardless of which translation you choose (others say he survived, not won), its still a work of fiction. Lincoln's record is actually written in history. Jacob wrestling an imaginary figure isn't. 

[ionel]

Just now, TNwrestling said:

Regardless of which translation you choose (others say he survived, not won), its still a work of fiction. Lincoln's record is actually written in history. Jacob wrestling an imaginary figure isn't. 

Please reference said historical writing.  

[ionel]

25 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Sewing or safety pins?  Push pins weren't invented unto the 20th century.  And it's really hard to judge how many pins would've have fallen in 1864.  Don't know how one could even calculate that

ahh ... the safety pin ... gotta be what Wkn been talk'n bout cause when a safety pin falls it just ain't safe no more.  What happens when Wkn depending on safety pins to hold up his old man diapers and has a pinfall.   

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

17 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

Regardless of which translation you choose (others say he survived, not won), its still a work of fiction. Lincoln's record is actually written in history. Jacob wrestling an imaginary figure isn't. 

How can you prove Lincoln actually existed?

[TNwrestling]

17 minutes ago, ionel said:

Please reference said historical writing.  

“We can only find one recorded defeat of Lincoln in 12 years,” stated Bob Dellinger, director emeritus of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in Stillwater, Oklahoma. “He was undoubtedly the roughest and toughest of all the wrestling presidents[1].”

 

 

 

Lincoln was nearly impossible to beat in his time. According to historians, Lincoln has only one confirmed loss in allegedly more than 300 fights throughout an incredible 12-year span.

 

https://www.blackbeltmag.com/abraham-lincoln-s-wrestling-prowess

 

Here's another reference. 

https://www.britannica.com/story/was-abraham-lincoln-a-wrestler

 

You're out of your element on this one. Jacob wrestling an angel never happened. Lincoln's wrestling was documented.

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by TNwrestling

[TNwrestling]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

How can you prove Lincoln actually existed?

besdies the pictures and dead body?

[ionel]

1 minute ago, TNwrestling said:

“We can only find one recorded defeat of Lincoln in 12 years,” stated Bob Dellinger, director emeritus of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in Stillwater, Oklahoma. “He was undoubtedly the roughest and toughest of all the wrestling presidents[1].”

 

 

 

Lincoln was nearly impossible to beat in his time. According to historians, Lincoln has only one confirmed loss in allegedly more than 300 fights throughout an incredible 12-year span.

 

https://www.blackbeltmag.com/abraham-lincoln-s-wrestling-prowess

 

You're out of your element on this one. Jacob wrestling an angel never happened. Lincoln's wrestling was documented.

 

 

No proof ... this looks photoshopped.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

5 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

“We can only find one recorded defeat of Lincoln in 12 years,” stated Bob Dellinger, director emeritus of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in Stillwater, Oklahoma. “He was undoubtedly the roughest and toughest of all the wrestling presidents[1].”

 

 

 

Lincoln was nearly impossible to beat in his time. According to historians, Lincoln has only one confirmed loss in allegedly more than 300 fights throughout an incredible 12-year span.

 

https://www.blackbeltmag.com/abraham-lincoln-s-wrestling-prowess

 

You're out of your element on this one. Jacob wrestling an angel never happened. Lincoln's wrestling was documented.

 

 

Blackbelt magazine? That's your source? 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

6 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

besdies the pictures and dead body?

Besties?  I don't follow you.

How do you know it is his dead body?  It could be an imposter.

Edited 22 hours ago by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[PortaJohn]

10 minutes ago, ionel said:

ahh ... the safety pin ... gotta be what Wkn been talk'n bout cause when a safety pin falls it just ain't safe no more.  What happens when Wkn depending on safety pins to hold up his old man diapers and has a pinfall.   

I guess it depends if it happens in the water or not

[TNwrestling]

54 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Blackbelt magazine? That's your source? 

umm...no the source is Bob Dellinger, director emeritus of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. The magazine is where he said it. 

 

It's baffling you guys are arguing that Lincoln's wrestling record didn't exist but Jacob, a guy from a book of fiction, wrestled an imaginary creature and that DID happen. 

[TNwrestling]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

No proof ... this looks photoshopped.

You've yet to prove jacob's "match" with the angel happened