Survey Claims Half of Leftists Justify Violence Against Trump, Musk, Tesla. Is this true?

[scourge165]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I dunno boss.  I’m sure you do though.  Whom?

I'd imagine the people talking about...

 

Are you illiterate or do you just skip over the posts of the people who you already agree with?

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Go back and read my first post to this post big guy.

 

And now who is fantasizing about a civil war?

I counted.  
 

people who said the word civil war in this thread 

you @scourge165 8 times @red viking 4 times 

I asked once.   I asked you two to show one post before the last election where y’all complained that repubs were credibly clamoring for this pre election   Y’all didn’t answer  

your obsessed man.

 

[scourge165]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I counted.  
 

people who said the word civil war in this thread 

you @scourge165 8 times @red viking 4 times 

I asked once.   I asked you two to show one post before the last election where y’all complained that repubs were credibly clamoring for this pre election   Y’all didn’t answer  

your obsessed man.

 

Hey...stoopid. How about the person who STARTED this thread who plainly said it WASN'T "just rhetoric" and very clearly talks about it here?

 

Jesus...you just see whatever you'd like, don't you?

[Caveira]

Just now, scourge165 said:

Hey...stoopid. How about the person who STARTED this thread who plainly said it WASN'T "just rhetoric" and very clearly talks about it here?

 

Jesus...you just see whatever you'd like, don't you?

It says red Viking said the word civil war.  You’re out here threatening violence with your guns and the like.  

[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It says red Viking said the word civil war.  You’re out here threatening violence with your guns and the like.  

 

9 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Hey...stoopid. How about the person who STARTED this thread who plainly said it WASN'T "just rhetoric" and very clearly talks about it here?

 

Jesus...you just see whatever you'd like, don't you?

It’s also red Viking quoting red Viking which is …… cool?

[scourge165]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It says red Viking said the word civil war.  You’re out here threatening violence with your guns and the like.  

No, it says Red Vikings talking about the Rhetoric he heard and then Jross talking about how it's not just rhetoric.

 

Then JRoss...thinking HE'S the big tough guy. And yes, You're right. I said if people of his ilk are insane enough to want to start a civil war, I'll stay in my home with my guns and let the people who think this is cute or a fun little topic fight it out. 

 

I really can't tell if you're serious and pretending to not see what other people are saying because they're not SPECIFICALLY saying Civil War(oh, get your clicker out!)...

 

And what did you make of the comment about the Mastiff and the Jack Russell? What do you think was trying to be inferred there?

[scourge165]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

 

It’s also red Viking quoting red Viking which is …… cool?

Ok...I get it. You are just another clown. 

That SAYS it's Red Viking quoting Red Viking? Or is that jross?

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

No, it says Red Vikings talking about the Rhetoric he heard and then Jross talking about how it's not just rhetoric.

 

Then JRoss...thinking HE'S the big tough guy. And yes, You're right. I said if people of his ilk are insane enough to want to start a civil war, I'll stay in my home with my guns and let the people who think this is cute or a fun little topic fight it out. 

 

I really can't tell if you're serious and pretending to not see what other people are saying because they're not SPECIFICALLY saying Civil War(oh, get your clicker out!)...

 

And what did you make of the comment about the Mastiff and the Jack Russell? What do you think was trying to be inferred there?

I literally counted yes.  You and red Viking are the only two talking about civil war.  Repeatedly.  Still waiting for you to produce some evidence this is an old republican idea as if it was in fact something repubs were pushing surely you would have complained pre election.   Otherwise this is just post election whining and conspiracy theory nonsense.  

[scourge165]

But...in a few years when we talk about this era, hopefully a distant thought and as close to authoritarianism as we get(anyone remember when people threw a tantrum when Obama signed ONE executive order rather than just...bypass all Congress by making EVERYTHING an executive order)?

 

Anyway...keep pretending you're seeing the LEFT threatening violence.

 

Now...I'll admit, this was the lamest and most pathetic attempt to "intimidate" by comparing yourself to a dog and...that game, but please, you still haven't seen anyone talking about it other than me and Red Viking? 

 

[scourge165]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I literally counted yes.  You and red Viking are the only two talking about civil war.  Repeatedly.  Still waiting for you to produce some evidence this is an old republican idea as if it was in fact something repubs were pushing surely you would have complained pre election.   Otherwise this is just post election whining and conspiracy theory nonsense.  

First of all, why are you so obsessed with what I PERSONALL posted?

https://truthout.org/articles/republican-at-vance-rally-says-civil-war-may-be-needed-if-trump-loses-election/

Or does this again not fit what becomes an ever more narrow definition because I have to have held your hand and pointed this out to you on a forum I didn't post about a whole lot politically before the election?

 

54% or Republicans believe a....CIVIL WAR is coming.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2024/02/could-united-states-be-headed-national-divorce

 

Now, I ALREADY posted these, so not reason to expect this to work. You and Jimmy seem to have that in common. 

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

First of all, why are you so obsessed with what I PERSONALL posted?

https://truthout.org/articles/republican-at-vance-rally-says-civil-war-may-be-needed-if-trump-loses-election/

Or does this again not fit what becomes an ever more narrow definition because I have to have held your hand and pointed this out to you on a forum I didn't post about a whole lot politically before the election?

 

54% or Republicans believe a....CIVIL WAR is coming.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2024/02/could-united-states-be-headed-national-divorce

 

Now, I ALREADY posted these, so not reason to expect this to work. You and Jimmy seem to have that in common. 

Conspiracy theory nonsense Is what you posted.   Tin foil hat people look at you and think dayum bro.  Slow down. 

Edited April 8 by Caveira

[scourge165]

Just now, Caveira said:

Conspiracy theory nonsense.  Is what you posted.  

LOL...you're a joke. 

I posted an ELECTED REPUBLICAN stated;

Quote

“Trump and Butler County’s J.D. Vance are the last chance to save our country politically,” Lang said in his introduction of Vance. “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country and it will be saved.”

 

But...ALL you asked was to show me where people were talking about it. Where did I get this from. 

A Republican Senator says...we're going to need a Civil War if WE don't get OUR way, and that's a "conspiracy?"

 

Jesus Christ...just tell me you don't know what conspiracy means. 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

LOL...you're a joke. 

I posted an ELECTED REPUBLICAN stated;

 

But...ALL you asked was to show me where people were talking about it. Where did I get this from. 

A Republican Senator says...we're going to need a Civil War if WE don't get OUR way, and that's a "conspiracy?"

 

Jesus Christ...just tell me you don't know what conspiracy means. 

I can google bla bla nonsense too.  Doesn’t make it real or credible 

democrat leaders call for violence 

 

[JimmySpeaks]

55 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I counted.  
 

people who said the word civil war in this thread 

you @scourge165 8 times @red viking 4 times 

I asked once.   I asked you two to show one post before the last election where y’all complained that repubs were credibly clamoring for this pre election   Y’all didn’t answer  

your obsessed man.

 

It’s so bad they don’t even know they’re doing it.  

[JimmySpeaks]

32 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

But...in a few years when we talk about this era, hopefully a distant thought and as close to authoritarianism as we get(anyone remember when people threw a tantrum when Obama signed ONE executive order rather than just...bypass all Congress by making EVERYTHING an executive order)?

 

Anyway...keep pretending you're seeing the LEFT threatening violence.

 

Now...I'll admit, this was the lamest and most pathetic attempt to "intimidate" by comparing yourself to a dog and...that game, but please, you still haven't seen anyone talking about it other than me and Red Viking? 

 

Dems have a history of burning *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* down.  Republicans will wait until they’ll need to defend themselves and the country.  8 times you mentioned the CW huh?   Sad. 

[JimmySpeaks]

4 hours ago, Boring said:

Oh, I am? I wasn't one of Trump's lunatics who waited in Dallas, Texas for the ghost of RFK to appear and ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP. The Trump cultists were so dumb they thought RFK would rise from the dead in Dallas. Seems if any Kennedy would rise from the dead in Dallas it would be JFK, right? God they are dumb.  Oh, and how about schools giving sex change operations at school without even showing the courtesy to notify the parents first? Your fuhrer repeated that one. You geniuses actually think elementary schools keep sex change surgeons on-call with a full operating room at the schools. Jesus H Christ. You clowns bandy the stupidest conspiracies I've ever heard, and I grew up in the "Bermuda Triangle" generation. 

Now it seems to me if Trump actually had been injured he'd have been eager to have a doctor examine him so he could show what an injured patriot he is, but he never did allow anybody to verify the "wound". That was somebody else's blood that splashed on the clown's ear. But go ahead and believe a conman without proof, that's what rubes do. 

 

Dude I have no idea what this even means. But it certainly does reaffirm the fact that you’re all over conspiracy theories.   

[scourge165]

Oh boy... @Caveiracalls it "conspiracy theory" and then when I post for the 2nd time a Republican Senator calling for...a CIVIL WAR, he tries to equivocate.

 

ANYONE calling for the assassination of a Political Leader should be condemned. 

 

Why is it SOOO hard for you to do that? I celebrated Cori Bush losing her election(and yes, it happened on HERE...which is apparently the only place any of this counts). 

 

Though...I'm confused why you posted a video in which THREE times Obama says something that has NOTHING to do with violence? The last quote, the real ominous one? He was at a fund raiser you twit. This is the problem with "whataboutism." 

You justify everything instead of just saying, "that's too f-ng far," and condemn it.

 

But I see very clearly from this thread, the extremism that I thought was only on the corners of the internet is very much real. You can't even just CONCEDE that talking about a Civil War if your side doesn't win...is a BAD thing. 

 

[scourge165]

24 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I can google bla bla nonsense too.  Doesn’t make it real or credible 

By the way...can I ask...how was it not "real?" 

He said it those words on the National Stage. But it is good to know you don't believe what you posted and you think it's "not real" or "credible."

[JimmySpeaks]

7 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Oh boy... @Caveiracalls it "conspiracy theory" and then when I post for the 2nd time a Republican Senator calling for...a CIVIL WAR, he tries to equivocate.

 

ANYONE calling for the assassination of a Political Leader should be condemned. 

 

Why is it SOOO hard for you to do that? I celebrated Cori Bush losing her election(and yes, it happened on HERE...which is apparently the only place any of this counts). 

 

Though...I'm confused why you posted a video in which THREE times Obama says something that has NOTHING to do with violence? The last quote, the real ominous one? He was at a fund raiser you twit. This is the problem with "whataboutism." 

You justify everything instead of just saying, "that's too f-ng far," and condemn it.

 

But I see very clearly from this thread, the extremism that I thought was only on the corners of the internet is very much real. You can't even just CONCEDE that talking about a Civil War if your side doesn't win...is a BAD thing. 

 

It is absolutely a bad thing for either side to say it.  His point is dems are doing most all of it. 

[JimmySpeaks]

43 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

First of all, why are you so obsessed with what I PERSONALL posted?

https://truthout.org/articles/republican-at-vance-rally-says-civil-war-may-be-needed-if-trump-loses-election/

Or does this again not fit what becomes an ever more narrow definition because I have to have held your hand and pointed this out to you on a forum I didn't post about a whole lot politically before the election?

 

54% or Republicans believe a....CIVIL WAR is coming.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2024/02/could-united-states-be-headed-national-divorce

 

Now, I ALREADY posted these, so not reason to expect this to work. You and Jimmy seem to have that in common. 

Says the guy that has me on ignore yet puts my name in all most of his comments.  You’re obsessed all right. 

[JimmySpeaks]

11 hours ago, scourge165 said:

That's...about what I thought Jimmy.

It just gives me the option and I don't get the alerts when you...reply twice in a row and say...nothing.

 

You wanted evidence of polling I thought(or at least wished) to be dubious)...and you're back to whining about how I put you on ignore so I determine when I have to deal with you(again). 

Day 5 and still no “Great Depression” like Scrooge said we’d have by now 

[Caveira]

27 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Oh boy... @Caveiracalls it "conspiracy theory" and then when I post for the 2nd time a Republican Senator calling for...a CIVIL WAR, he tries to equivocate.

 

ANYONE calling for the assassination of a Political Leader should be condemned. 

 

Why is it SOOO hard for you to do that? I celebrated Cori Bush losing her election(and yes, it happened on HERE...which is apparently the only place any of this counts). 

 

Though...I'm confused why you posted a video in which THREE times Obama says something that has NOTHING to do with violence? The last quote, the real ominous one? He was at a fund raiser you twit. This is the problem with "whataboutism." 

You justify everything instead of just saying, "that's too f-ng far," and condemn it.

 

But I see very clearly from this thread, the extremism that I thought was only on the corners of the internet is very much real. You can't even just CONCEDE that talking about a Civil War if your side doesn't win...is a BAD thing. 

 

He’s a state senator not a us senator.  Huge difference.  You’re equating what some moron said and projecting the whole party thinks that way.   Clue is that they don’t.   You went crazy til foil hat on a nothing burger.   Comment on one of the Ds in the vid when they called for violence.  I bet you won’t.   Denounce the terrorists burning Tesla stations or cars.   You won’t.  

he state senator whatever his name is said he thinks.  Not he calls for it. No one is taking his side.  His dumb idea isn’t taking shape.   You’re clinging to what one moron said.  

There are many times higher ranking democrats called for violence against Trump.  And musk.  Why do you ignore that.  Denounce it.   You won’t.    

Biden called for Trump to be put in a bulls eye.  What does that mean?   Denounce that.   You won’t   

Earlier this year, President Biden told donors in a private call that the media isn’t doing enough to scrutinize Trump and that it was "time to put Trump in the bulls-eye." Biden, after the first assassination attempt against Trump, acknowledged it was a "mistake" to use that term.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-have-repeatedly-used-violent-rhetoric-against-former-president-time-put-trump-bullseye.amp

Edited April 9 by Caveira

[scourge165]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

He’s a state senator not a us senator.

Ok. I never said he was a "US Senator." He's an elected official who plainly called for Civil War. 

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

You’re equating what some moron said and projecting the whole party thinks that way.

No, actually, if you'll go back, I said I DIDN'T believe that. Start from the beginning as this is the 3rd or 4th time I've told you that. I don't believe 50% of those on the left think murdering Musk is justified and I DIDN'T think most people on the right thought violence was justified...until the people pretending to be outraged by it on here started to advocate for it and tell us how it's going to go. 

 

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Clue is that they don’t.   You went crazy til foil hat on a nothing burger.

Again...because I said I've seen a lot of polls about people on the right that I DON'T believe and then Jimmy demanded me to provide examples?

 

 

Jesus Christ...alright...I'm learning my lesson. You're apparently not reading what I'm writing. I was gonna go point by point, but...it seems pointless. You'll unlikely even read what I wrote here. 

Edited April 9 by scourge165

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Ok. I never said he was a "US Senator." He's an elected official who plainly called for Civil War. 

No, actually, if you'll go back, I said I DIDN'T believe that. Start from the beginning as this is the 3rd or 4th time I've told you that. I don't believe 50% of those on the left think murdering Musk is justified and I DIDN'T think most people thought violence was justified...until the people pretending to be outraged by it on here started to advocate for it and tell us how it's going to go. 

 

Again...because I said I've seen a lot of polls about people on the right that I DON'T believe and then Jimmy demanded me to provide examples?

 

 

Jesus Christ...alright...I'm learning my lesson. You're apparently not reading what I'm writing. I was gonna go point by point, but...it seems pointless. You'll unlikely even read what I wrote here. 

Denounce Biden saying time to put Trump in a bulls eye… immediately after an  attempt on his life and Ds calling for violence.  
 

I called the r state senator a moron.  What say you.  Your move.  

Edited April 9 by Caveira

[scourge165]

24 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Denounce the terrorists burning Tesla stations or cars.   You won’t.  

 

Are you completely restarted? I HAVE done that, I did that from the start...why the hell wouldn't I?

What have I EVER said that suggests I advocated calling for violence or destruction of ANY type? But while I do that, I hear how Jan6 really wasn't that big of a deal...it was propaganda. 

16 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Denounce Biden saying time to put Trump in a bulls eye… immediately after an  attempt on his life

No. Because there's...a thing called context.

Quote

President Joe Biden said, "I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate. It’s time to put Trump in a bull's-eye."

 

16 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Ds calling for violence.  

Which ones? Like Cori Bush? How about when I JUST said one of the NEGATIVE side effects of Trump's disastrous trade is that as soon as we started getting people like Bush and Bowman out of office, he'll get them back in as it's going to be a bloodbath in the midterms(it is either way).

 

16 minutes ago, Caveira said:

What say you.  Your move.

What more "moves" would you like of me?

 

I said I DIDN'T believe in violence as political recourse and I didn't believe that Republicans actually did as much as some of these polls said they did...and then when called out on it, accused of making up the polls, you then call me a "conspiracy theorist," and you claim that I actually do think all the Republicans are calling for violence.

 

You want stupid compilation videos with 20 times Trump has called for violence including calling for a firing squad for Liz Cheney?

 

 

Screw....the people here are probably right. It probably is too far gone. It was never going to be another Nation that took us down. Empires always crumble from within. 

Edited April 9 by scourge165