Dark Energy Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Can someone please explain how the Henson TD was overturned? In front, had both legs, opponent on butt, Henson head down between opponents legs. What was precisely different from the rule they put in after Jordan Oliver match?
Scouts Honor Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 3/23/2025 at 11:03 AM, Dark Energy said: Can someone please explain how the Henson TD was overturned? In front, had both legs, opponent on butt, Henson head down between opponents legs. What was precisely different from the rule they put in after Jordan Oliver match? Expand in front. that's all you need to say.
Dark Energy Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 Reaction time? I don’t think so. It settled in for a bit. There was a pause before the TD was given. Anyone have another reason? Really feeling this was a crap call reversal. Is ref association required to explain?
gimpeltf Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Does anyone have a picture of this one? There were a couple and being old, I'm having trouble distinguishing without photo evidence/reminder.
Rassling2 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 3/23/2025 at 3:10 PM, gimpeltf said: Does anyone have a picture of this one? There were a couple and being old, I'm having trouble distinguishing without photo evidence/reminder. Expand Being old? Old is gold as they say! 1
Dark Energy Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 On 3/23/2025 at 3:07 PM, Scouts Honor said: in front. that's all you need to say. Expand Not sure what you mean. Pls clarify.
Scouts Honor Posted March 23 Posted March 23 its clear when he had both legs and his head not under and ridge not on butt , he was out front.
Dark Energy Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 Here is a picture. Ridge is on butt. Both legs. Hope can see it is a live pic. Ridge was there for more than reaction time.
gimpeltf Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Thanks, this is the one I was thinking of. Not a td here because both butt cheeks not down. What I noticed (more when they replayed but I thought might have happened live) was that Henson pulled his left arm off Ridge's right leg and put both around Ridge's right so that later didn't have both legs. 1
1032004 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Were there any other TD’s overturned in the finals other than this and Hamiti’s in regulation? Although even 2 feels like a lot for the finals
gimpeltf Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 3/24/2025 at 12:30 PM, gimpeltf said: Thanks, this is the one I was thinking of. Not a td here because both butt cheeks not down. What I noticed (more when they replayed but I thought might have happened live) was that Henson pulled his left arm off Ridge's right leg and put both around Ridge's right so that later didn't have both legs. Expand Meant left leg for the second part.
creek chub Posted March 24 Posted March 24 I’m a VT fan but also realistic, it looked like a TD to me.
Dogbone Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) Watching live, I thought it was close but when Ridge popped his hips off the mat, I thought it was within reaction time and not a TD. At the end of the day. Ridge and Henson will always be a coinflip match, they wrestled 4 times and are 2-2 with each getting a Title with the other in the bracket. Feels right to me. Edited March 24 by Dogbone 1
ChickenWing Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 3/24/2025 at 3:46 PM, Scouts Honor said: heads not up Expand I'm curious about this. I thought the Jordan Oliver rule change eliminated the "head up" requirement for a takedown. That was in 2013 so it may have changed again.
gimpeltf Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 3/24/2025 at 3:53 PM, Dogbone said: Watching live, I thought it was close but when Ridge popped his hips off the mat, I thought it was within reaction time and not a TD. Expand Agree with that also about reaction time.
Dark Energy Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 (edited) It did eliminate the head up requirement I believe. Read up on it. Gimp - need both butt cheeks down in this position? Ok, will need to go back and check. Many other TDs don’t need both butt cheeks down. Edited March 24 by Dark Energy
Scouts Honor Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 3/24/2025 at 4:05 PM, ChickenWing said: I'm curious about this. I thought the Jordan Oliver rule change eliminated the "head up" requirement for a takedown. That was in 2013 so it may have changed again. Expand his head was up... this one is still underneath ridge
gimpeltf Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 3/24/2025 at 4:07 PM, Dark Energy said: It did eliminate the head up requirement I believe. Read up on it. Gimp - need both butt cheeks down in this position? Ok, will need to go back and check. Many other TDs don’t need both butt cheeks down. Expand The butt thing is an interpretation not a specific rule. I was just talking to Kessel who did the challenges. I noticed in the finals how fast they went. Turns out they had 4 people there (two specific challengees and two refs rotating down there) watching on 8 screens. So they had already been watching (especially during the finals). 1
Dark Energy Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 Thanks Gimp. I’m watching the ESPN video. I can’t see angle on butt but see your note here. Now I will get on my soapbox. I disagree on the no TD call. If that is not considered a TD it needs to be. We need to reward the aggression. And the simple optics of who is in each position … with green covering and in control of legs and red hips … with red sitting on butt … screams TD. 1
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