65-0. The Most Brutal Beatdown Ever?

[WrestlingRecords.com]

They didn't have techs in the 70s, so there were some pretty lopsided wins. 3x world medalist Andre Metzger beat a guy 65-0. Dan Gable destroyed some people too. He beat Klaus Rost 20-0 in the '72 Olympics. He also beat Dave Muthler 25-0 in the '71 WTTs.

Have there been any wins more dominant than 65-0?

Andre Metzger's record: https://wrestlingrecords.com/wrestler/andre-metzger/

[666]

I've never seen a score that high before. I remember seeing a 34-6 score at the state tournament back in 1981. Back in those days any win by 12 points or more scored the same as a techfall today and was called a "superior decision", but there was no 15 point "mercy rule" like today. Seems to me if you can rack up 30 points on somebody that you probably could pin him if you wanted. 

[WrestlingRecords.com]

8 minutes ago, 666 said:

I've never seen a score that high before. I remember seeing a 34-6 score at the state tournament back in 1981. Back in those days any win by 12 points or more scored the same as a techfall today and was called a "superior decision", but there was no 15 point "mercy rule" like today. Seems to me if you can rack up 30 points on somebody that you probably could pin him if you wanted. 

Interesting. 34-6 is pretty steep. I didn't think of there being no mercy rule for high school. I'm sure there were some pretty crazy scores. 

[billyhoyle]

I'll just throw this out there for consideration. 

 

 

[666]

13 minutes ago, WrestlingRecords.com said:

Interesting. 34-6 is pretty steep. I didn't think of there being no mercy rule for high school. I'm sure there were some pretty crazy scores. 

I don't even know when techfalls became a thing. Sometime after I was done with my wrestling career. There was no mercy on the mat when I wrestled

[WrestlingRecords.com]

32 minutes ago, billyhoyle said:

I'll just throw this out there for consideration. 

 

 

34-2 is insane. Makes sense Saitiev would have a match up there. 

[Hammerlock3]

No worse than the afore mentioned but Randy lewis beat an Iowa State guy, not jim gibbons, by more than 20 I think, odd match cause he was such a pinner and couldnt shoot without embarassing himself.

[pokemonster]

Gene Mills was known to get some ridiculously high scores in his matches. FILA president said they were invented because of him, he scored 70+ multiple times against world competition.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/6520717-tech-falls-were-invented-because-of-gene-mills

[billyhoyle]

18 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Gene Mills was known to get some ridiculously high scores in his matches. FILA president said they were invented because of him, he scored 70+ multiple times against world competition.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/6520717-tech-falls-were-invented-because-of-gene-mills

 

[pokemonster]

9 minutes ago, billyhoyle said:

 

That was fun to watch. Looked like Bobby Weaver's ribs were hurting! Announcers referenced wins of 42-0 and 36-0 that year, damn. And that's only with 2 pt near falls. Wowza. 

[pokemonster]

Also, what the hell were they calling that tilt? A chee-chee? 

[WrestlingRecords.com]

7 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Also, what the hell were they calling that tilt? A chee-chee? 

Haha I heard cheapie. Could've been chee-chee though

[Psalm 1 guy]

3 hours ago, 666 said:

I don't even know when techfalls became a thing. Sometime after I was done with my wrestling career. There was no mercy on the mat when I wrestled

From Jay Hammond at NWHOF:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bm3Q-fNFYFhwQYfCl1yRP9rBxjBInznoSX_iJtL9y0c/edit?usp=sharing

[wrestlingshoe]

I believe the tech fall in folkstyle came about in the 85-86 season, my HS freshman year. I think it was already in freestyle as I remember the 12-point tech fall in middle school (this I'm not positive about, though).  I also remember a one-count exposure for 2 pts in 87-88. It only lasted one year (my jr year). My HS coach taught us the cheap tilt just for that reason. 

[BAC]

23 hours ago, WrestlingRecords.com said:

34-2 is insane. Makes sense Saitiev would have a match up there. 

I watched that match live at MSG. Afterward, Satiev climbed up into the stands just a few feet away from me, where the rest of the Russia contingent was. I’ll never forget the smirk on his face as he exchanged glances with his teammates. Left my stomach feeling unsettled. I wouldn’t be surprised if that match was the reason FILA made the tech automatic rather than optional.

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1 hour ago, BAC said:

I watched that match live at MSG. Afterward, Satiev climbed up into the stands just a few feet away from me, where the rest of the Russia contingent was. I’ll never forget the smirk on his face as he exchanged glances with his teammates. Left my stomach feeling unsettled. I wouldn’t be surprised if that match was the reason FILA made the tech automatic rather than optional.

That's super cool. You should've shot a double on him. Might've surprised him. 

[billyhoyle]

33 minutes ago, WrestlingRecords.com said:

That's super cool. You should've shot a double on him. Might've surprised him. 

The double from that match probably gave Saitiev flashbacks to Sydney. 

[WrestlingRasta]

On 2/1/2025 at 7:25 PM, billyhoyle said:

I'll just throw this out there for consideration. 

 

 

I walked the African out for this match.  You can see me sitting to the left (viewers right) of the mat judge.   

[BAC]

15 hours ago, WrestlingRecords.com said:

That's super cool. You should've shot a double on him. Might've surprised him. 

I wish I had.  I didn't like it at all.  The rules permitted it, but I suspect the reason for and spirit of the rule was to allow wrestlers to go for the pin, a higher team point value than a tech.  Saitiev clearly wasn't going for the pin. Watching the match, it was unclear to me whether he was trying to humiliate the guy or was just using the early-round match to work out the kinks in his own game (which I'd have been OK with), but the post-match smirk told me it was the former. I'm glad they changed the rule.

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4 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I walked the African out for this match.  You can see me sitting to the left (viewers right) of the mat judge.   

Very cool. Did you work with the Senegal national team? Or were you working the tournament?

[WrestlingRasta]

18 hours ago, WrestlingRecords.com said:

Very cool. Did you work with the Senegal national team? Or were you working the tournament?

Working the tournament.  Used to do alot with USA Wrestling and Boxing.