Turley gets it right

[mspart]

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/11/27/reimagining-the-resistance-lawfare-warriors-express-regret-but-not-remorse-after-election/

You can read the whole article, but I will just post here the last few paragraphs.   He gets this absolutely right, in my opinion. 

The problem with the lawfare campaign is that it did not just treat the law as an extension of politics, but treated the public as chumps. A large part of the public saw these cases for what they were: the use of motivated judges in favorable jurisdictions for political advantage.

These same figures claim to be “saving democracy.”

The result was that liberals convinced many citizens that democracy was at risk . . . from them. What they saw was efforts at ballot cleansing to remove Trump and other Republicans from the ballots. They saw raw lawfare in New York courts. They saw Kamala Harris and other Democrats supporting an unprecedented system of censorship that one court called “Orwellian.”

Liberals continue to ignore that obvious disconnection despite the polls showing that they were increasingly viewed as the threat. Voters in swing states felt that Trump is more likely to protect democracy than Kamala Harris, who was running on a “save democracy” platform. One poll asked whether Trump or Harris “would do a better job” of “defending against threats to democracy,” 43% picked Trump, while 40% picked Harris. Likewise, free speech registered as one of the greatest concerns for voters in this election after years of censorship and blacklisting from the left.

Now, one of the academics who previously said that we have to reimagine our democracy and trash our constitution is advising that the election left “a Democratic Party in dire need of reimagining.”

There is a point where “reimagining” everything from the police to democracy becomes less of an exercise of self-evaluation than self-delusion. What many figures like Moyn are not willing to admit is that what Democrats attempted to do with lawfare was wrong and that the public rejected it … and them.

mspart

[Offthemat]

You do know Turley is a lib?  But he’s honest, and I quote him occasionally myself.  

[mspart]

I think he would prefer to be called a classic liberal.   He certainly is no leftist.  He does call them straight though I think. 

He did not like either of the NY Trump prosecutions, called them lawfare.  

He did think the Jack Smith prosecutions had more teeth especially the one about the documents. 

He did not think much of the Georgia prosecution.  

He does not think much about the government censoring, wishing to censor, or colluding to censor people. 

He wrote a book on the 1st Amendment and how it is currently endangered by the left and those in government 

Those are "classic liberal" concerns. 

mspart

[ionel]

36 minutes ago, mspart said:

He certainly is no leftist. 

So not a "winger" as some would say.

[Offthemat]

4 hours ago, mspart said:

I think he would prefer to be called a classic liberal.   He certainly is no leftist.  He does call them straight though I think. 

He did not like either of the NY Trump prosecutions, called them lawfare.  

He did think the Jack Smith prosecutions had more teeth especially the one about the documents. 

He did not think much of the Georgia prosecution.  

He does not think much about the government censoring, wishing to censor, or colluding to censor people. 

He wrote a book on the 1st Amendment and how it is currently endangered by the left and those in government 

Those are "classic liberal" concerns. 

mspart

Yes..  I read his site frequently, but he has said that he tends to vote dimocrat.  Classic liberal?  Yes.  That would include you and me, I guess. 

[Lipdrag]

I see the election as a huge jury nullification situation.  The American electorate as jury rejected and nullified lawfare, overwhelming media, academic, entertainment, corporate, and government institutional bias.  The majority of voting Americans  said you are wrong, the "laws" you are bringing to bear are wrong, and your method of using them is wrong.  Even if he did everything you allege your behavior is more heinous and we reject it.