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Can he lose the 11 needed for 74kg or does he go 86kg with Dake, Zahid and Trent and the young college guys? Feels like 74 would be best but that must be a real tough pull. There are several other guys at non olmypic weight that will need to make so tough calls at 61 and 70. Olympic Trials at 65, 74 and 86 are going to be amazing.

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2 hours ago, Sparro said:

Can he lose the 11 needed for 74kg or does he go 86kg with Dake, Zahid and Trent and the young college guys? Feels like 74 would be best but that must be a real tough pull. There are several other guys at non olmypic weight that will need to make so tough calls at 61 and 70. Olympic Trials at 65, 74 and 86 are going to be amazing.

I think Levi goes 86.

Jax 57

Davino 57

Blaze & Seidel 65

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So Jax was just doing it for the team by not going 125 last year or this year and contemplating 141??

Same with Davino why didn't he go 125 if he could and let Nick eat??   Why did they pick the heavier stronger weight class?  Also Add two more years growth, Maybe they should try and make 125 in sometime in 2027 to see?

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2 hours ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

So Jax was just doing it for the team by not going 125 last year or this year and contemplating 141??

Same with Davino why didn't he go 125 if he could and let Nick eat??   Why did they pick the heavier stronger weight class?  Also Add two more years growth, Maybe they should try and make 125 in sometime in 2027 to see?

I'm sure has a lot to do with the significant difference in maintaining a weight class through a college season schedule, and making a weight a few times, a few months apart

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Everything I’ve heard seems to indicate he’s likely to go up. He’s a big kid and he’s only recently 22, still very young…could have 2-3 Olympic cycles in him if he wants.

Overall just a shame with the condensed Olympic weight classes. So much talent in the US and likely worldwide who never get a shot due to nonsense.

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If Jax can make 57 without losing what makes him great (as we've seen happen to so many trying to cut to 57 and 65), then that's probably the best path. I suspect Davino would be his toughest competition, as I'd favor both over Spencer and Lilledahl.

But as much as 65 is a minefeld, I think he gives Bo his toughest match. Unfortunately, he'll likely have to get through Blaze to get there, but if he does, I don't see Bo's pace or offense overwhelming him at all. 

My only concern for Jax is his size and physicality at 65. Right now, he looks significantly smaller than Bo, and like three weight classes below someone like Amouzad (who looks to me like he could wrestle 86 without issue).

Whether he goes up or down, I think he goes that weight next summer. Can he build his body up like DT did when he moved to 86, and like Dake seems to have done this year, or is he going to suffer the same difficulty Vito has?

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26 minutes ago, whaletail said:

If Jax can make 57 without losing what makes him great (as we've seen happen to so many trying to cut to 57 and 65), then that's probably the best path. I suspect Davino would be his toughest competition, as I'd favor both over Spencer and Lilledahl.

 

LOL That didn't take long 

"I got the whole world telling me that I'm overrated. I'm just glad I was able to win one, right?"

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1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

LOL That didn't take long 

"I got the whole world telling me that I'm overrated. I'm just glad I was able to win one, right?"

Favoring Jax and Davino over a less than 100% Spencer isn't claiming he's overrated.

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I don’t think you can say that Davino is favored, but he’s got a real shot even if it doesn’t feel like it the way Spencer wrestled this weekend. Davino is elite. Whether he can make the weight and be effective remains to be seen. No way Jax is making 57 kg. The rest of the fab four at 133 apart from Davino are all clearly heading up to challenge Bassett in 2028. The trials at that weight are going to be unreal.

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2 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

He just defeated the world less than 100%.  No one made it the distance, but you just picked two college kids with zero senior hardware over him.

I'm hugely biased, and always pick Jax over anyone. If he's at 65, I'll convince myself he can beat Bo. It's not about diminishing Spencer at all, I'm just a Jax fan.

Thinking about it, I may have been a bit careless picking Davino. I think he's an unbelievable talent, with a mind that simply won't countenance defeat, but Spencer is something else.

I also can't fathom how someone can even compete on a torn ACL, let alone compete effectively. I know some people have more stability with a torn ACL than others, and I imagine really strengthening your quads can help stabilize the knee, but Spencer's ability to wrestle after his first tear, as a high school senior, blew my mind, and that was with a massive brace.

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30 minutes ago, Reality Check said:

I don’t think you can say that Davino is favored, but he’s got a real shot even if it doesn’t feel like it the way Spencer wrestled this weekend. Davino is elite. Whether he can make the weight and be effective remains to be seen. No way Jax is making 57 kg. The rest of the fab four at 133 apart from Davino are all clearly heading up to challenge Bassett in 2028. The trials at that weight are going to be unreal.

I don't see how Jax makes 57 either, and I'd only pick him if I were confident the cut didn't destroy him. But his frame seems more suited to 65 than 57, and long run, I think he outgrows 65 too. Wouldn't shock me if wrestles 165 by his 5th year, and is a solid 74kg hammer in Brisbane 2032.

Rightly or wrongly, the consensus seems to be that Davino is a smaller 133 than say Seidel, and if he can make 57 without compromising himself, I do think he and Spencer wrestle for the spot (again, assuming Jax is up at 65).

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Lock these in for 2028

Levi 86KG - he is never going back down. 

Davino 57 KG - He has the frame for 57 

Jax - 65KG - Plenty of room to fill out

Blaze - 65KG - No chance he makes 57 - beat Bo last year. 

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