What's up with PJ Duke

[BigTimeFan]

17 minutes ago, BIGTENFANBOY said:

Yea probably would have been a better way to go about it. During PSU's radio broadcast before the start of his semi with Robideau, Jeff Byers (host/commentator) mentioned Duke may have been hurt in the previous match.

fair 

[Caveira]

15 minutes ago, BIGTENFANBOY said:

You act like hes suddenly overnight because super strong due to PED usage at PSU. Quite a big accusation. The kid has been dominant since he was in 7th grade winning  high school state titles, yet you accuse PSU of providing him a cocktail of PEDs. The one who looks bad here is you.

It’s not like there are other high level athletes at psu that popped for peds ….   Wait what?

[pokemonster]

1 minute ago, SocraTease said:

Shut up you f-in idiot.  Put up the evidence or go crawl back under your bed again.   He was a 4 time high school champ with one loss and is a U20 world champ.  Meanwhile, you were playing pokeman and crying because you couldn't make the JV team

Open your eyes you old man. For somebody with the username Socratease, you're quite a clueless moron.

[pokemonster]

20 minutes ago, BIGTENFANBOY said:

Youre an idiot. You said the same thing about Barr. 

But since you went to a school where it happened I guess its cool for me to accuse you of the same thing! Pokemonster the only reason why you ever won a wrestling match is because you were on PEDs. You even admit it was rampant at your school. This is a huge reflection of you as a person and no one else.

Didn't say it was rampant. I never used anything aside from protein powder. I admit I don't know for sure, and I'm being a bit of a provocative d*ck on purpose, but I wish this was talked about more, especially with people who gain 20 lbs of pure muscle in an offseason (Barr) or kid's who've been built like grown men since they were 12 winning on straight horsing people around and slamming them onto their backs, concussing them, etc. 

Edited March 21 by pokemonster

[BigTimeFan]

I don't even know, how rigorous is the drug testing in NCAA wrestling? 

[pokemonster]

3 minutes ago, BigTimeFan said:

I don't even know, how rigorous is the drug testing in NCAA wrestling? 

From all accounts I've heard, it's essentially nonexistent and handled by the schools. I think some are randomly selected at NCAAs, but at that point, anybody can get it out of your system. I'd be curious to hear more input from D1 wrestlers. 

[BigTimeFan]

Just now, pokemonster said:

From all accounts I've heard, it's essentially nonexistent and handled by the schools. I think some are randomly selected at NCAAs, but at that point, anybody can get it out of your system. I'd be curious to hear more input from D1 wrestlers. 

well human nature being what it is and looking at sports who have rigorous testing and real sanctions for PED use, it's not at all crazy to assume people are using PEDs for edge

[OriginalAxon]

10 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Didn't say it was rampant. I never used anything aside from protein powder. I admit I don't know for sure, and I'm being a bit of a d*ck on purpose, but I wish this was talked about more, especially with people who gain 20 lbs of pure muscle in an offseason (Barr) or kid's who've been built like grown men since they were 12 winning on straight horsing people around and slamming them onto their backs, concussing them, etc. 

Robideau must have some better stuff then to withstand PJ - guys should get whatever he has. 

[pokemonster]

Just now, BigTimeFan said:

well human nature being what it is and looking at sports who have rigorous testing and real sanctions for PED use, it's not at all crazy to assume people are using PEDs for edge

I'll go ahead and apologize for calling you an idiot, but it's hard to imagine another way for a few of these guys to be levels above in strength and musculature unless they're genetic gods like Herschel Walker. Looking at the parents, I don't see the genetics. 

[pokemonster]

2 minutes ago, OriginalAxon said:

Robideau must have some better stuff then to withstand PJ - guys should get whatever he has. 

I'd have agreed with you, until I saw his post match interview and he had the voice of a chipmunk. If he was taking something to alter his hormones, it'd be hard to have that, lol. 

[BigTimeFan]

Just now, pokemonster said:

I'll go ahead and apologize for calling you an idiot, but it's hard to imagine another way for a few of these guys to be levels above in strength and musculature unless they're genetic gods like Herschel Walker. Looking at the parents, I don't see the genetics. 

I don't care if you call me an idiot.  in terms of PEDs the issue is this. the minute people start thinking that their competition is doing PEDs they start to think they **have to** do them too. then they weight the risks and they hear: 1. with reasonable precautions you won't get caught, and 2. with reasonable precautions your nuts won't shrivel too much

[Threadkilla]

27 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Barr is an obvious example as well. Keep your head in the sand. With the unregulated peptide market and the age of the internet, acquiring this stuff is easier than ever. 

So your dumb ass is accusing Penn State of steroid use.   I know you didn't mention Penn State, you just mentioned two of their wrestlers. You are an idiot.  Doucett has a different body shape this year and Ryder looked strong after Injury.   Jax motor has improved after showing up in Stillwater.   It's pretty easy to re grow shade in College kids that work their ass off.  Clown.  

[pokemonster]

1 minute ago, BigTimeFan said:

I don't care if you call me an idiot.  in terms of PEDs the issue is this. the minute people start thinking that their competition is doing PEDs they start to think they **have to** do them too. then they weight the risks and they hear: 1. with reasonable precautions you won't get caught, and 2. with reasonable precautions your nuts won't shrivel too much

I think modern day medicine has multiple methods of mitigating almost all side effects like the nuts shrinking. It used to be that PEDs would shrink your nuts, mess with your mood, halt T production after coming off, create horrible acne, cause b*tch tits, etc, but nowadays they stack them with facial products for acne, hCG to prevent after use T production, finasteride for hair loss, estrogen control medicine for b*tch tits, various medicines for mood, etc. It's pretty advanced. 

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, Threadkilla said:

So your dumb ass is accusing Penn State of steroid use.   I know you didn't mention Penn State, you just mentioned two of their wrestlers. You are an idiot.  Doucett has a different body shape this year and Ryder looked strong after Injury.   Jax motor has improved after showing up in Stillwater.   It's pretty easy to re grow shade in College kids that work their ass off.  Clown.  

Never have there been proven accusations about psu and peds 

 

Nor has there been accusations yet to be proven 

Where there is smoke……   There definitely is smoke 

 

[BigTimeFan]

8 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

I think modern day medicine has multiple methods of mitigating almost all side effects like the nuts shrinking. It used to be that PEDs would shrink your nuts, mess with your mood, halt T production after coming off, create horrible acne, cause b*tch tits, etc, but nowadays they stack them with facial products for acne, hCG to prevent after use T production, finasteride for hair loss, estrogen control medicine for b*tch tits, various medicines for mood, etc. It's pretty advanced. 

now you've got me thinking about it 

[TommyTechnique]

10 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

From all accounts I've heard, it's essentially nonexistent and handled by the schools. I think some are randomly selected at NCAAs, but at that point, anybody can get it out of your system. I'd be curious to hear more input from D1 wrestlers. 

Take this with a grain of salt because this was over 20 years. My school never tested us and I was never tested at NCAAs. I had a teammate who was randomly selected at NCAAs. I believe there is a higher likelihood of being tested if you are a finalist (the teammate was not a finalist). 
 

I had a friend who wrestled at PSU and he stated that they did have drug tests. I don’t know if it was the school or conference which required the testing. 

[pokemonster]

6 minutes ago, TommyTechnique said:

Take this with a grain of salt because this was over 20 years. My school never tested us and I was never tested at NCAAs. I had a teammate who was randomly selected at NCAAs. I believe there is a higher likelihood of being tested if you are a finalist (the teammate was not a finalist). 
 

I had a friend who wrestled at PSU and he stated that they did have drug tests. I don’t know if it was the school or conference which required the testing. 

Was anyone using? I recall seeing matches like Schwab vs Bono in real pro wrestling, and they were absolute brick sh*thouses. After watching their walkout, hard to imagine they were natty.

 

Edited March 21 by pokemonster

[TommyTechnique]

10 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

I think modern day medicine has multiple methods of mitigating almost all side effects like the nuts shrinking. It used to be that PEDs would shrink your nuts, mess with your mood, halt T production after coming off, create horrible acne, cause b*tch tits, etc, but nowadays they stack them with facial products for acne, hCG to prevent after use T production, finasteride for hair loss, estrogen control medicine for b*tch tits, various medicines for mood, etc. It's pretty advanced. 

I’m no expert in the field but you used to be able to buy SARMS right over the Internet (and maybe still can). https://www.fda.gov/about-fda/regulatory-news-stories-and-features/fda-agents-bust-man-selling-illegal-and-unsafe-bodybuilding-drugs

[pokemonster]

1 minute ago, TommyTechnique said:

I’m no expert in the field but you used to be able to buy SARMS right over the Internet (and maybe still can). https://www.fda.gov/about-fda/regulatory-news-stories-and-features/fda-agents-bust-man-selling-illegal-and-unsafe-bodybuilding-drugs

I've taken a GLP1 from gray market before and the same sites that sell those also sell everything in the book. The forums that have the links are heavily used by PED users as well. That's how I've seen all this info.

[BIGTENFANBOY]

1 hour ago, pokemonster said:

Didn't say it was rampant. I never used anything aside from protein powder. I admit I don't know for sure, and I'm being a bit of a provocative d*ck on purpose, but I wish this was talked about more, especially with people who gain 20 lbs of pure muscle in an offseason (Barr) or kid's who've been built like grown men since they were 12 winning on straight horsing people around and slamming them onto their backs, concussing them, etc. 

I dont believe you. You are a liar. You obviously used steroids to compensate for your complete lack of athletic ability.

[BIGTENFANBOY]

23 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

I've taken a GLP1 from gray market before and the same sites that sell those also sell everything in the book. The forums that have the links are heavily used by PED users as well. That's how I've seen all this info.

Awww so you admit it. Your posts are nothing but projection. You feel guilty about having cheated thus you accuse others of cheating.

[pokemonster]

21 minutes ago, BIGTENFANBOY said:

Awww so you admit it. Your posts are nothing but projection. You feel guilty about having cheated thus you accuse others of cheating.

Lol, maybe if it were to cheat in a weight cutting competition your comment would make sense. 

[BIGTENFANBOY]

1 minute ago, pokemonster said:

Lol, maybe if it were to cheat in a weight cutting competition your comment would make sense. 

Nah we all know you used PEDs. Thats the only reason you ever won a single match. It was literally part of your school's athletic program.

[BIGTENFANBOY]

16 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Lol, maybe if it were to cheat in a weight cutting competition your comment would make sense. 

Aww what a cute little poop emoji. What's wrong? Don't like being called out on your BS?

[CHROMEBIRD]

I thought Jimmy or somebody reported from the PSU peanut gallery that Duke reinjured his groin or something like that? He didn't look himself about midway through his quarterfinals match either. Slow getting up, etc.