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You’re missing the point of the analogy. It’s not saying immigrants are literally breaking into your house or stealing your food. It’s about respecting boundaries and rules. A country, like a home, has laws to protect its resources and citizens. Illegal aliens bypass those laws, just like squatting ignores property rights. Sure, a country’s bigger than a house, but the principle’s the same: fairness matters. Calling MAGA heartless for wanting legal processes followed ignores their priorities... caring for Americans first... workers struggling with job competition... a system that rewards those who wait years to enter legally. Citizens should have a say in who lives here and shapes our culture; that’s partly why we have legal immigration processes. Open borders won’t solve poverty.

How would an April birthday turning 19 as a senior not be a redshirt? I have 3 kids, 2 of which have summer birthdays that I started kindergarten late, and they still won’t be 19 until after they graduate HS. I thought most places the cutoff was around 9/1, so holding back an April birthday would mean they could be older than about 1/3 of the kids in the grade ahead of them.

I call b s because no one's job is being "stolen". No one is applying for those positions.

Yes, it is very fair to call you heartless when you advocate separating kids from their parents, using abusive tactics to apprehend people whose sole offense is being here without papers. Absolutely.

There is a case to be made that open-border folks are heartless to struggling Americans.

A more accurate analogy is an asylum seeker fleeing their country due to economic, political, or social reasons and entering a bordering country without prior authorization. So they take jobs with the lowest barriers to entry and are often exploited by employers under the threat of being turned in.

Is it fair to call someone heartless if they’re making hard choices to protect what they think is right? There’s a video that shows even taking millions of immigrants barely scratches the surface of the 3 billion people living on less than $2/day. It’s not about not caring... it’s about realizing we can’t fix everything through immigration. We should prioritize caring for our own people first and stick to legal immigration processes to ensure fairness for those who follow the rules. Helping others is important, but it’s often more effective to support people where they live rather than straining our resources with a system that only helps a few. MAGA could display more compassion, absolutely, but its focus is on priorities that rank above sympathy for illegal aliens. We shouldn’t overlook the rest of America. Any group’s actions can be framed as heartless depending on the examples chosen.

Are you from New Jersey by chance? Those ages seem young in comparison to Pennsylvania. I turned 18 about a month and a half into my senior year of high school. I had a few kids in my grade older than me. Everyone I was friends with turned 18 during our senior year of high school with one exception, a friend of mine turned 18 in August right before the school year started. None of us were ever held back or anything. When I went to college I found that people from NJ were about a full year younger than people I graduated high school with. I know that when I was in high school (1995-1999) you could be up to like 21 years old and play high school sports. There was a kid who went to Greensburg Salem (where Greg Jones went to high school) a few grades ahead of me that was held back a bunch of times but still played on their soccer team. I know he was 20-21 years old because everyone gossiped about it because he was quickly running out of eligibility.

No, it really doesn't.

We are dealing with a very racist misconception that people living here unocumented commit more crimes or use government resources disportionately. They aren't even eligible for SNAP, TANF, etc so that is just a maga talking point lie. The welfare queen myth perpetuated by reagan lives on.

People generally prefer the term that applies, not one that means the literal opposite.

I seem to remember the riots in 2020 lasted for months. LA lasted for a week or so. And I atribute that to them being denied easy arson, theft, looting, and assault. That's what the Nat Guard brought. mspart

I rest my case. mspart

You are a math genius. Maybe you should be in Congress. No wait!! mspart

The analogy works even if you don't want it to. Sorry for that, but that is the way it is. mspart

This guy will train wreck NYC if he gets to do what he is saying he wants to do. He can't do it without a compliant city council. mspart

I will address two questions in one post. I am against ALL ice raids. The location matters because of the intent. And the intent is to strike terror and fear into anyone with Brown skin and especially immigrants. As to art's analogy. It is garabge that is barely worth addressing. No one is camping in your yard, breaking into your home, stealing your food, etc.

Seen plenty of high school football stars get their drivers license before the majority of the grade. It's more evident in wrestling because if the top 4 guys do it that's a major % of the starting lineup but it's common in football as well, and I'm sure in other sports I don't pay attention to.

It's supposed to be 28% approve; not 38%.