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I can live with this Snyder loss today and Spencer's. Prbly zain too. Everyone else you can easily say there tactical mistakes that were easily preventable with good coaching. And that is unaccepted and cannot be tolerated by USA wrestling.

Japan technique just another level. No USA coach even got close to technique to expose dakes chest wrap Mind numbing really how that's possible

Actually gonna give cael credit in the Snyder game plan. Nothing stupid really . Snyder was wearing him out. Should of just started attacking sooner Solid loss.

How damning is it that no USA opponent had the technique to expose Kyle's chest wrap after studying him ? Burroughs included The Japan opponent obviously was in the lab Actually he looked adept against it last time he faced dake Also why is Carl not seeking ways opponents will attack dake and be ready for that ?

There was more weights back then but versus expectations this tops them all I recognize Snyder's ability to play up to his competition but frankly he hasn't done it in quite many years. Taz will roll him. Zain is going to lose a Metcalf grinder with a lack of freestyle fluidity. Both are coached by Sanderson. Just something to monitor tomorrow. Specifically zain late in matches.

Kyle "bronze" medal Snyder is not getting gold. Snyder is solid not spectacular and he is always in a bronze medal match. Zain ? At 65 ? ......I see him losing a "tough hard fought battle" as is the status quo with him ....likely at the end of the last period with a lead. Blowing the lead with a lack of innate fluidity in certain positions and practiced awareness of how to close out matches from nittany lion wrestling club.

JB is great. And a a+ ambassador for the sport. Did anyone catch the comment about his dad giving him a gold necklace was like a wrestler bearing their flag ? I may have butchered it just walked in the room from doing some summer cleaning but I swear I heard him talking about gold necklaces.....and it may have been an apt comparison but it seemed rather strange.

First I didn't notice anymore palpable excitement or feel watching it from regular worlds. I was told the Olympics was different ? I couldn't tell. If anything it looked more watered down and worse then worlds without Russia. Second - 0 golds is not an abject failure due to simply no golds. (Without Russia). It's not fair to criticize coaches or competitors based solely on wins and losses as it is the manner in which they win or lose. Example Spencer Lee and brands. That's a GREAT effort in a loss and silver medal. Another example is Serbia basketball vs USA. It is an abject failure tho in the case of mason parris. In the case of Aaron brooks. And Kyle dake tho takatani may have just been on a heater. When you get praised beyond belief for winning you DESERVE the likewise when you don't win. Insert cael Sanderson. Insert Bill zadick. Insert USA training system. When we praise the rtc system based on results it must be re examined and thought if this is the best method when results turn to losses instead of wins (without Russia). 3rd - imagine if Spencer Lee went full throttle into freestyle after winning junior worlds instead of going to folk ? How many senior worlds would he have ?...Gilman looked like the little engine that could. Played above his talent. Lee looks like a 5 star. 4th thinking USA could get a medal at every weight and multiple golds was completely over the top. Especially for guys like brooks who deserved to lose to Valencia and hasnt dominated opponents internationally. And a guy like parris who is not near as consistent as gwiz was. The best years have been when we have guarded optimism with a chip on the shoulder and something to prove to the world. The lack of Russia and recent success may have taken it away. Came in on a high horse. 5th greco gets a bad wrap. Watching some of those middleweights was sheer athletic excellence on display. The Bulgarian who won gold in greco has insane hips. Way more action then I've ever seen in greco. Such a shame USA sucks in this sport. That Bulgarian may be one of the best pfp wrestlers overall basing this on one match and no other background info. 6th We know Snyder isn't winning gold. Book it. He's far more average then elite. Bad move turning on his boy dlagnov. 7th cael is a GREAT folk coach. Free - overrated. The lack of tactical awareness and training displayed by brooks and cael after it happened to him with Gilman will be one for the record books and should be one of the first things brought up when discussing cael Sanderson for the eternity of time. It's on his record. No idea what zadick does. The system feels broken.

Kind of feel brooks is on level of that krugeliv amine match

Burroughs just compared his dad giving him a gold chain to the pride of wrestlers putting their countrys flag on after the match

As good as Gilman was at international, Lee just has so much more punch. A real blue chip.

0 golds without Russia Lee wrestled a match to be proud of Brands coaches a match to be proud of Brands is greater then cael If your gonna go down. At least go down like that. No dumb tactics.

Zadick has say. He has the ability to have the conversations of what needs improved worked on scouting of opponent and staying in contact with rtc or calling players personally and implementing training regiment. And he holds team camps in Colorado.

I may have to give cael a break after reading about the Paris Match. This been the problem with this guy for several years in college. I believe Bill zadick is not facing enough scrutiny.

No opinion stated just facts laid. Dakes last loss at Olympics was for relying on chest wrap. Isn't that where coaches step in ? Yes. Another fact. Imagine having a talent like dake and underperforming with that talent ?

Biggest upset of mens tournament ? Did not see dake going down. He was on a mission and has been through the fire for this moment. Seriously ...not trolling....when a guy gets praised up and down like cael he deserves criticism when he fails and this is legitimate failures that are frankly embarrassing. Burroughs talking about how takatani scouted so well Let's call it what it is - cael DID NOT have dake prepared and no sideline adjustments. He didn't have brooks ready for that situation. The current most overrated thing in sports right now is cael Sanderson freestyle coaching. Large chance brooks and dake get to finals with another coach. Facts.

Another Penn state guy and another guy who has flatlined or regressed since the move. If cael is so much better these are situations he should be making a difference in tactically.

Except yazdani absolute smokes the field and covers 40 points football spreads where Kyle skates by and gets upset somewhat regularly. Their dominance isn't really comparable.

Yea but they have team practices in colorado where I assume they do something as a team coordinated by zadick. Look someone has to have the big boy pants to step in front of cael for end of match situations. Apparently not. A failure at a multitude of levels. I believe this is where the Iranian and Russian one head coach in the corner has some benefits. Clear messaging. alignment. Clear understanding of match management and scouting of opponent to stay out of those positions. Caels folk dominance as a coach is largely based on top and bottom. Primarily that's the #1 reason for Penn states success. And winning close matches by grabbing onto the leg for a stalemate. Not things that translate to free.

Does Bill zadick do anything or is he just a figurehead ? Seems like he does no coaching.

It's absolutely true. Also. We all know Tom Ryan and dlagnov would of won many worlds with David Taylor. Same with any coach. Russian going 'this cael guy the best the US coach ? Dumb USA expose at end of match again. Hahahaha. Have another beer my Dagestan brother"

Cause it's what u do in NCAA folk. Does anyone in the media have the balls to ask cal in an interview about this and how reminiscent it is of Gilman. And how many times they practiced it ? Cal just dropped off the pantheon for me. Major recruiting tool for other rtcs to use is this and Snyder's lack of improvement since going to PSU. I don't think anyone has the balls. Certainly not at flo.

I promise you all the Russians are at home right now laughing at the brooks match and at USA coaching for those tactics.

It's like in basketball fouling up 3 to not even let a 3 point attempt. In wrestling now how do you protect a lead late ? Don't allow underhooks. Well how bout not shooting to put yourself in a position to be crotch lifted. And then once there maybe some awareness of it so you don't just try to win NCAAs on a leg from the ref. In the moment I thought that was a great great move by uguev. Now i view it as way easier then hitting a single leg. Brooks looked even more uncomfortable then gilman there. Id be curious what the stats are of USA hanging on to positions late vs Russians.

That's same thing people said about uguev against Gilman. I actually don't think it was incredible by uguev or the Belarus today - I think it's a fairly easy move for them and it will be repeated every single time We need to train to defense that move late like defending an under hook on a throw when up big late. American instincts through folk are obviously to hold on there with no awareness whatsoever. I believe this needs to be brought to zadichs attention. And Sanderson. It's obvious coaching malpractice. I believe end of match freestyle prep should take up maybe 50 percent or more of practice time. Euros just kills us there. Without hesitation I believe Gilman and brooks should have and would have won those matches with better coaching.