TylerDurden

Good work, @Drew Newcomb

They're on Track as well. https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/predefinedtournaments/VerifyPassword.jsp?tournamentId=855048132

No, they didn't. They bent the rules for your favorite team and you're ok with it. Others aren't. It's that simple. The Big 12 got this wrong.

Red herring much?

The weigh in rules exist for a reason. Everyone knows (or should know) what the rules are. If you don't follow those rules, the consequences are spelled out pretty clearly. Does it feel like a harsh punishment to DQ a competitor who doesn't really gain an advantage by cutting weight (or whatever they were doing) so late in the process? Yep. Do I agree with letting people break/bend the rules and then compete? Nope. Everyone had the same opportunity to make weight before the weigh-in time began. If you didn't make weight by then, you shouldn't compete. I may not personally agree with the criteria regarding undergarments, weight cutting activity in the weigh-in room, etc., but those are the rules in place. You don't get to pick and choose what rules you want to follow. If the Big 12 allowed a violation of the rules and altered the competition schedule to accommodate that violation, they should be ashamed.

That's a nightmare for a No. 1 seed.

Counterpoint: you decided that a pin is more valuable in every situation for your calculation. Wrestling isn't the same as volleyball. A pin can happen for reasons other than domination - people get caught while leading, etc. In volleyball, you can't get caught. If you lose a set 25-14, you got smacked. I think that's where your system will fall apart when trying to make it work for wrestling.

This is stupid. I don't care who knows who personally, the dad is a douche bag for the way he acted. Those "baiting" or "taunting" or whatever they did are also douche bags. If this truly has been happening for the four years of HS, then deciding to finally confront it during the state series of your kid's senior season, in the stands, in front of cameras is moronic. He deserved to be arrested for utter stupidity. I don't buy that rationale from papa Knox, but it doesn't matter what I think. Little Knox also was stupid for rushing to defend his family's honor, but he's still a kid and kids make irrational decisions sometimes and don't consider the consequences - so do adults, to be fair. But in the end, the judge let him wrestle, so call it a day, let the kid wrestle, win his fourth title and react how you want when they show him on the video board.

They sell Test at the concession stand. It's listed right under the sun tan spray.

Congratulations, Mr. Knox, Sr. You sure showed them how tough you are.

He ended up in the position more than once. The first time he tried to freestyle it with his step over which would be something you might do to create an exposure opportunity. I agree that he had a opportunity to score on the first exchange, but the position was repeated because his finishing techniques and defense took him into freestyle positions that would likely lead to an exposure attempt or restart in free. He kept finding himself in positions that didn't favor him - a lot of that is Ayala. That tends to happen to less experienced wrestlers - in this case free vs. folk experience. Perhaps a better way to frame it is to compare it to instances where one of the US guys loses a FS match because they gave up three exposures in a position that wouldn't even be a scoring sequence in folk.

Sakamoto looked like he was wrestling a freestyle match to me. A couple of positions made him look like an average HS kid: the merkle and when he was on bottom - it looked like he was waiting for the referee to stand them up before he remembered that he had to get out. He has talent, but you can tell he didn't come up in folkstyle wrestling. I understand why Oklahoma State sent him out, but it was a tough ask against Ayala.

It was concentrated well before NIL and the portal. The teams may shift, but the concentration was there. Depending on your criteria to evaluate talent (team results, national champs, etc.), you could make the case that wrestling has always had the most concentration of talent amongst a handful of schools in men's DI sports. Without doing the research, I'm betting that between the handful of Iowa, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Penn State and Ohio State there are more team and individual titles that just about everyone else combined. I know that's true for team titles. Heck, it might be true just between Iowa and Oklahoma State.

Blind draws. I kid. I kid.

The answer is no one. Kerk has wrestled him about as tough as anyone since his freshman season, but he's the only one I see holding it to a regular decision and I'm not super confident in that prediction. Hendrickson would get majored, at least.

Yes. Because we all know Amine only wrestles 2-1 matches.

To be fair, the attention is mostly for the work they've done as dual team and UNI is a damn good dual team. I think UNI gets more than one AA, but I think the o/u is probably somewhere around 2.5.

I'm not trying to troll here, but just because it may have the same or a similar title doesn't necessarily mean it's a lateral move.

125 Flynn dec. Cruz 3-0 Minnesota 133 Ayala dec. Wells 3-3 141 VomBaur dec. Schriever 6-3 Minnesota 149 Parco major Roberts 7-6 Iowa 157 Teemer dec. Askey 10-6 Iowa 165 Caliendo dec. Sparks 13-6 Iowa 174 Kennedy dec. Whiting 16-6 Iowa 184 McEnelly dec. Arnold 16-9 Iowa 197 Buchanan major Salazar 20-9 Iowa HWT Steveson TF Kueter 20-14 Iowa I think Iowa wins in a competitive, but not nail-biting dual. Minnesota is a lock at HWT (duh) and a near lock at 141. I could be convinced that Iowa can win 125 and I won't be surprised if Arnold wins, but I'm not expecting it.

This year it's probably HEW, if I had to guess. I wasn't sure he'd have any sort of college career. My lasting image of him from HS was Brayton Lee breaking him in the HS state tournament (17-2 TF) when Lee was a senior and Washington was a Junior. Washington also lost the next year in the state final to a guy who wrestled at Ohio (Slivka). Basically, that one match against Lee made me pause and wonder if he had the sort of mentality it took to succeed in the B1G - even understanding the level that Lee was on at that time. But...then he went from never winning an Indiana HS title to beating Starocci two years later. You don't do with without talent. All-in-all, I think his career has been pretty successful, even if it appears he had the potential for more. I'll fully admit that I was wrong about him in college. That's a credit to him and Escobedo.

Ohio State continues to be a team that's hard to get a good read one. They didn't put all of their guys out there, but I don't know how the Buckeyes can feel anything but uneasy about its upcoming date with Penn State after the dual with IU. Angel Escobedo doesn't have all the top talent, but his guys scrap...except DJ Washington. He does something else. Penn State can win 9/10 if it sends everyone out. 197 No. 21 Gabe Sollars (IND) def. No. 18 Seth Shumate (OSU) | D, 10-6 0 3 HWT No. 9 Nick Feldman (OSU) def. No. 18 Jacob Bullock (IND) | D, 4-2 3 3 125 No. 20 Jacob Moran (IND) def. No. 18 Brendan McCrone (OSU) | D, 3-2 3 6 133 Angelo Rini (IND) def. No. 10 Nic Bouzakis (OSU) | D, 6-3 3 9 141 No. 1 Jesse Mendez (OSU) def. Lucas Peters (IND) | TF, 19-3 8 9 149 No. 8 Dylan D'Emilio (OSU) def. Joey Buttler (IND) | D, 5-3 11 9 157 Brandon Cannon (OSU) def. Ryan Garvick (IND) | TF, 18-3 16 9 165 No. 19 Tyler Lillard (IND) def. Brock Herman (OSU) | MD, 15-2 16 13 174 No. 5 Carson Kharchla (OSU) def. Roman Rogotzke (IND) | TF, 19-4 21 13 184 No. 19 Ryder Rogotzke (OSU) def. DJ Washington (IND) | F, 0:59 27 13

No doubt his losses have been "good losses." But I guess my bigger point is that there aren't really college folkstyle wins anyone can point to that suggest he's head-and-shoulders better than someone on Allred's level. What people thought were going to be his marquee wins last year - Feldkamp and Wittlake - turned out to be wins over a guy who was a little better than .500 and a guy who was clearly battling previous injuries. To me, his results suggest that he's a guy who's in the mix for an AA spot but I also wouldn't be surprised if he went 2-2 at the NCAAs. Just seems to me that the perception surrounding him is a bit inflated vis-a-vis his actual results.

I'm kind of confused about why people talk about Arnold like this. Why would anyone think Allred wouldn't beat him? Allred is a former B1G champion. Arnold might not even be the best 184 on his own team, with quotes that are more memorable than his results to this point. We have people talking about him like he's been wrecking ranked wrestlers right and left, when the reality is he's blocking and holding position against anyone with a pulse. I'm not trying to crap on the guy, he's a good wrestler, but he hasn't shown himself to be in a tier that warrants anyone saying something like no one expected Silas Allred to beat him.

I personally find Ohio State one of the more difficult teams to predict in a B1G dual. Outside of Mendez and Kharchla, it's hard to gauge which version of a wrestler you're going to see. I might be selling D'Emilio a bit short with that statement, but I see everyone else as being 50/50 to lose focus for a moment and find themselves having to rally from a two-takedown+ deficit.

Then you know that there's no point to this thread.