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125: Matt Ramos
133: Dustin Norris or Jacob Macatangay
141: Jacob Macatangay or Dustin Norris
149: Marcos Polanco
157: Nate Camiscioli or Kade Law
165: Joey Blaze
174: James Rowley
184: Joey Milano
197: Hayden Flipovich
285: Hayden Copass
Pretty solid lineup and they've really tapped into the portal 

Let's see if they get a taste for poached gopher.

Honestly psu 2024 looks like the best lineup ever assembled, don't think anyone can contend next year. But 2025 and after that is the goal 

I see nominally five qualifiers and two placers.
Hamiti and Amos are the two placers.  Hamiti as a 'should be' 3rd is highly inaccurate.  He is 0-3 against Amine, 0-2 against Griffith, 0-1 against O'Toole, and 0-1 against Carr.  If you are going to say 'should be' then 4th is the highest that he 'should be' come NCAAs since one of Amine or Griffith are going up to 174.
I believe Amos has a peak of mid-AA as well.  I would welcome being surprised.
I don't see how you see a Top 10 finish here with those expectations.

Wisconsin, Bono and the Badgers should be top 10 this year 
 
125 - Barnett 2X AA 

133 - Rivera Should be a Qualifier 

141  Lettini
149 - Zargo  Should AA 

157 - Model Should be a qualifier

165 - Hamiti Should place top 3 

174 - Condon 

184 - Liegel DIII transfer, Huge upside 

197 - Talshahar Big things from him this year 

285 - Amos will move to Heavyweight an AA 

OSU:
125: Spratley/Witcraft   Is Spratley ready, can Witcraft make 125 again, I think we see some of both, wouldn't surprise me if it's Witcraft at the end and a R12
133: Fix   Finalist again
141: Alvarez   They wouldn't have brought him in unless can turn him into an AA, correct?
149: Williams  Kid looks great at times, then sometimes makes you wonder, perhaps as full time starter a NQ
157: Mirzo   Yeah my wild pick here.  They had a hole here so why would they bring in Mirzo & Olejnik unless John plans to do a little weight magic and Khayitov down to 57, he prob didn't cut much in juco.  If it happens going out on a limb with R12.
165: Olejnik  Its a tough weight class again but AA.
174: Wittlake (Plott)  I think its a good year to give Plott his RS and Wittlake a chance at a better weight.  AA
184: Thompson/Stika (Wittlake)  If Witt 74 then Thompson 84, can use that RS later, but could be Stika, like 125 & 285 prob see both.  NQ
197: Surber  AA
285: Doucet/Carroll  As with 125 & 184 prob see both guys, betting Carroll at the end.  AA if option C and NQ if option D.

I thought the smoke in the air was Sparks at 165 and Carlson at 174?
Also I think Joles has improved as much as anyone in the country the last two years and would surprise a lot of people if he could get a full, proper season back at 197.
Lee used to have senior level aspirations.  If they are Olympic I think it would be cool, even if less that 1% likely, to see him.at 165.

Alright I’ll do Minnesota, I guess

125 McKee. Finally got the knee surgery he’s been needing for two years, at his height he was a force at NCAA’s. Anything less than AA again would be disappointment.

133 ??? Don’t think Gliva is coming back. Going to need a transfer here. Nagao leaving sucks on so many levels.

141 Vance Vombaur had some really nice wins last year including 5th place finisher Clay Carlson. Tore his labrum at the scuffle last year tho so will be coming off surgery. I think he’s a solid NQ and could surprise some.

149 Drew Roberts I think will be very solid. Comparable to Blockhus.

157 Brayton Lee??? Can he get back to form two years removed from injury? If not, Sebas Swiggum.

165 Hunter Lyden - my bold prediction for the gophers this year is Lyden takes the weight by storm and threatens to AA.

174 Sam Skillings/Andrew Sparks - Skillings would be solid coming down from 184 where he had some nice wins backing up Salazar last year. Sparks finally bulks up

184 Isaiah Salazar - anything less than AA would be huge disappointment. Should be the favorite in the BigTen imo

197 Gavin Nelson? Or Joles if he goes down? I think both could do well

HWT Bennett Tabor is finally healthy, or Joles again after another offseason putting on weight

I think we’ll be lucky to get 3 AA’s, but help is on the way with the class of 2023 imo. Need some transfers to bolster the lineup. Tyler Eischens? Cleveland Belton? Maximo Renteria? Wyatt Henson/Joey Cruz?


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This is a point that we disagree on. I think Zare and Geno could both hand Steveson a loss. Gable looked great at the US Open, but he is not knows for being consistent, and he will be facing a long list of good opponents. He could win it all, but I wouldn't put it in such strong terms as you have done here. I mean he beat Geno with two clutch takedowns in a handful of seconds, a match that could have gone either way. He has also been away from wrestling for a year, though you couldn't tell that from the US Open. There's no doubt that the World Championships are a large step up from the US Open. 

Quit trying to steal my Sooners. 

I hate to be that guy that always brings unrelated threads back to the subject of his own team, but… the gophers lightweight room just got absolutely cleaned out. Spratley, Nagao, Jamison all leaving so there’s no depth and little star power whatsoever. Eggum needs to get Joey Cruz, Wyatt Henson, Anthony Santaniello and/or Zan Fugitt on a visit and see if he can seal the deal with any of them.

A team with a potentially elite group of upper weights coming in could actually make some noise if they were relevant at the bottom of the lineup too. Frustrating to watch unfold.

Okay rant over back to Jason Leonard being pond scum.


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I think Hopke, Feldman, Carroll, Kueter.
Hopke because I think by the time he steps on campus he will be able to beat the other three.
I think Feldman ahead of Carroll because I think Feldman also will and would beat Carroll. 
Kueter at 4 for the same reasons.
If Kueter were to take the wrestling only approach I have him at 1.

This might be a question worth it’s own topic but open question for all… how would you rank Kueter, Feldman, Christian Carroll and Koy Hopke as prospects?


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Any insight on where Tegan Jamison lands? 

Spratley transferred to Oklahoma State 
Nagao transferred to Penn State
Jamison in the portal
Kleuver in the portal
Marcus Polanco transferred to Purdue
Blockhus and Steveson not returning for final years of eligibility. 
All after losing Chittum last year
 
Oof
 
 

Damn, Jamison too.  If Iowa's offseason wasn't such a trainwreck, Minny would be having the worst one.

Did he GS last season?

Jamison? He’s leaving???


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One step forward, two steps back in Minnesota. Losing Nagao, Spratley and now Jamison is about as disaster level as it can get. Thank god for the Koy Hopke commitment, but the lightweight portion of the team is in absolute shambles.


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If not wanting to be teammates with the Ferrari’s is a primary driver, I wonder how Gabe Arnold feels about that as well. Not a hometown kid, not a ton of ties to the hawks, much bigger flight risk than a kid like Ryder Block IMO


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I could see the Chittum family and the Ferrari family getting along like oil and water. And both have proven to not be afraid to exit from a situation they’re unhappy with.


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Homegrown is still a thing... but not as much of a thing as it used to be. With the amount of travel these kids do with wrestling they are able to see schools, meet people, go to camps under coaches, etc. A lot kids do not want to stay home no matter what, so it's not always an indication of the program. 

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Just practicing a bit of trolling old chap, only way to improve is with some off-season practice.  Just poking some fun at the being beat in the room thing. I know the story behind the lack of final big board rating. Just makes for a "fun" talking point about Brands excellent coaching abilities when he places. I think one thing he's got going for him is 157 is not especially deep. 

Yes!!!


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