Simpleman424

ANNND…any point you were trying to make was discredited in the first four words….

Allegedly sent videos…plural…and plural it some more

And send the videos in a group Snapchat…

Yea I don’t think he’s really made the criteria of great just yet, although he was a blue chipper coming in to college. If I remember correctly there was a LOT of familiarity going into that match dating back to high school and that’s why both were so cautious.

Can I say Beau Bartlett? Maybe it’s just because Jesse’s style but I couldn’t stand watching him wrestle…I knew he was great but he just didn’t do anything or seem to really try. Always bothered me…

Oh I’m not sure. I watch Flo from time to time but I rarely watch large segments

https://www.themat.com/news/2026/october/06/kevin-pine-claims-greco-roman-gold-u-s-earns-three-medals-on-day-one-of-2026-veteran-world-championships Taking home a Greco Gold!

Not what I pictured…

I’m sorry I have no idea where the goal post are being moved anymore…

Wouldn’t matter, Ben never was man enough to dedicate himself to Greco. He chose to join the ranks of masculine and mental mediocrity because he clearly isn’t built that different. Only the Greco guys know what that’s like. He’s just lucky LJB and the boys don’t take him behind the woodshed.

I would still watch these matches

You’re killing it on this thread…Thank You for Your Service

Basically…I was going to find a little more dramatic picture. Steeper cliff, deeper waters, maybe a little flare in the jump with a twist…

Not kicked out just that one that you could be sitting and thinking everything’s fine, then the uh oh, then they jump off a cliff…into the deep waters again. Smh.

Getting a little deep in here…

Regardless of your thoughts on the father that’s still a 14 year old kid at the time you’re talking about…I’m mean he’s still only 21…I’d bring the gloves up a bit

It’s a physical sport for sure…I’ve had head lacerations, dislocated fingers, hospital visits etc but I think we’re being a little to inclusive with the term “combat sport”. There are no strikes or submissions used as the primary means of winning the contest. The injuries that do occur are almost always incidental… This push where people want to try and make it sexier by making it seem more like mma or something is a little embarrassing really…RAF is really bad about making it more like mma and I get it from a marketing point but it’s not the same. I don’t know to each their own I guess…I’ve never needed the clarifier to seem harder or whatever people think that gets them.

Maybe I am a little crazy…that’s the risk I always got excited about when doing FS/GR…

Saying “scared” is pretty silly…it’s not like we’re talking combat sports here. Ignorant sure to a degree but some just don’t like it…

I wrestled Greco in the offseason a little bit (loved making it up to Columbus to wrestle there)…I don’t get the hate on it. I’ve always been like that…challenge myself in different ways.

And I think the key distinction between us and the Iranians are the regional benefits (access, support, training partners, coaching etc) they have. I’m not on the unathletic train because I do believe there’s a distinction in athletic types between the two…while still not being worlds apart. The folk guys might be able to hang around a little bit but that’s not where their focus and growth is, same if you reversed the scenario. Unfortunately the only way to force Greco where it should be is by succeeding…that’s not necessarily on the athletes when they’re given what they’re given. No offense to coaching staffs or anything but we’re just not on the same level as others.

The way I’ve understood it is Freestyle and Folkstyle in America developed from “Catch” Wrestling that was brought over and very much preferred by British and Irish settlers/immigrants back in the day. And then we basically did nothing with Greco for 100+ years…we didn’t even participate in the Olympics for Greco until the 50’s. Not to say we’re still the new guys BUT compared to other countries the history, culture and support for it just isn’t there in America…

It’s crazy to think how many of these guys squeeze a weight class or two more out for the college level…there is NO way I could have done that coming out of high school 24+ years ago. I know a lot of strides have been made to limit the weight cuts since then though.

I wouldn’t even engage it…I’m not sure what the exact procedure is for getting someone suspended but if you feel strong enough about it I’d just report it’s as “abusive” in the drop down and move on. 90%+ of the time it’s unprovoked (like this one) and at the rate he does it/interacts with other users it’s bad for the board.

I don’t know about other people but I tend to like him. I also like watching football highlights with radio commentary or baseball games on the radio just because a broadcaster has a nostalgic like voice…