Wrasslin

So while not technically two, consider this . . .Kyle Dake beat David Taylor in a matchup of prior NCAA champions. But interestingly enough, in his finals matches, Kyle beat Frank Molinaro, Derek St. John, and David Taylor, all of whom went on to win an NCAA title the following year. Moral of the story, get beat by Kyle Dake in the finals, win an NCAA title the next year!

Well, I did predict that coming out of HS, Lebron James had no career in the NBA sooo... There's a possibility I'm wrong on Duke too!! He's legit no question, and it's not so much an indictment of Duke as much to say that the current guys in the PSU room around his weight are already destroying people. I think he may have to wait his turn is all.

Super tough call- you’re right! I don’t think folks would fault you either way, Willie. I’m leaning Oklahoma State and here’s why: As @Truzzcat said (he and I seem to agree on a lot of stuff), you look for immediate impact guys in their respective lineups. The two guys here are Blaze and Lockett- both are start right away guys and multiple time NCAA champions IMO. It’s a wash- they cancel each other out. ***NOTE: Duke not here because I don’t think he can break into PSU starting lineup Robideau/Vega/Routledge/Ramirez have higher ceiling than Duke/Henckel/Cunningham. PJ Duke leaves PSU after first year. Realizes he can’t break in over Van Ness, Kasak, Mesenbrink. Vega trajectory similar to that of former OSU star Nathan Morgan- 3x AA but no title (Freshman redshirt pulled). He’d benefit from a true redshirt year. Ronnie Ramirez underrated - has potential to be national champ- multiple time AA. Will benefit in OKST room. Statistically speaking, larger top 100 recruiting class = higher probability of someone overachieving their ranking. Odds are with OKST here. I’m open to feedback- thoughts?

How important is it that the names are in English?

Billy Murphy...that guy was talented...and kinda a sad wrestling story, although he did win an NJCAA championship. Coincidentally in high school, Billy was coached in part by Kyle Porter, also a 2X State Champ at Hughson...riveting stuff! (The Porter family are wrestling royalty in Modesto area, akin to the Zinkins in Fresno). He was a year behind that VT recruiting class, although he signed letter of intent when Tom was still at VT, he ended up switching to Iowa. Here's an old (and pretty good) article here from Intermat if you're interested:

I mean, I've lost to a bunch of people, according to a scoreboard (pfff). . .but I was making in-match adjustments, had momentum, and would have won if the matches were like, a minute longer. Two particularly egregious ones that I'd like to have a redo are: Kelvin (not Kevin) Jackson - 1995 NCAA Champ - dude was hard to score on and stalled for the last 2 minutes Dave Nieradka - 2X NCAA All-American (1993-1994) - He loved my legs so much he couldn't quit touching them. He only finished like, 83% of his shots though

As long as you are born years 2005 -2008 you can compete in U20. Stanich and McEnelly are already 20 yrs old but both born in 2005 so they are eligible.

^^^ so, since we're talking famous people, I beat the $hit out of Mario Lopez (Saved by the Bell) at J Robinson's Intensive Wrestling Camp when we were in high school. He's aged better, still all buff, rich, and his wife is way hotter than mine- he's probably still having sex. So who really won?

How long before Nicco Ruiz scoots out the door? ASU still has their solid recruiting ties with St John Bosco- they'll survive this . . . ebb and flow . . .

Personally, I'd rather hear about the best we've ever beat. Losing sucks. . . I tried it once.

LOL! I appreciate what you did there!

He definitely can (if Kiyooka is the Japanese rep- they've got a ton of talent at 65kg, even without Otoguro).

how is UNC an improvement on CSUB? Now if it was Duke . . .

It's funny, when I hear someone talk about Takatani I'm like, "that dude's been around forever!" The only Japanese wrestler I can think of is Yuji Takada won an Olympic bronze medal in 1984 at the age of 30. I don't think he wrestled after that.

That's what I was thinking . . . must be nice to retire at 26! lol!