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I use Flo and Trac for gathering scores for Pablo rankings, and sometimes there are formatting issues. The biggest problem I find is that the scores are shown as tied. Or are they mistakes? I don't know if these are matches that went through all the tie-breaking and ended being decided by riding time (although I don't know, if that happens, is the final score listed as a tie or do they give the winning wrestler one point?) Nonetheless, there have been a lot of matches this year that have been recorded as a tie score, even though someone won. I could really use some help tracking these down, if anyone is willing and has some time to kill. The format is, date of the match, weight, team and winning wrestler (whoever trac or flo called the winner), their score, and then the weight, team and losing wrestler (all these are ties). If you know of the real answer, please reply. I've got a couple of sets of data to keep it manageable
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Arnold/Ryder no takedown call (reaction time)
Pablo replied to BaldAt23's topic in College Wrestling
I don't think the refs do have different definitions. Not anything significant. As I noted, this "takedown" was less of a takedown than what Joey Blaze did last week. Blaze didn't get the call, Arnold didn't get the call. It's actually pretty consistent. -
Arnold/Ryder no takedown call (reaction time)
Pablo replied to BaldAt23's topic in College Wrestling
Absolutely not, but I'll tell you one thing, that patience is a virtue. The most common way to get into trouble as an official is to be too quick on a call. I was having a problem with that on my fall calls - note that NCAA and freestyle falls just need both shoulders to contact the mat at the same time and boom. But NFHS actually requires 2 seconds. I was jumping the gun and calling it more like the NCAA version, but it got me into trouble for calling falls before they were established. Better to slow down and confirm and double check both shoulders and let them wrestle than to jump the gun on a pin call (I make a lot more conscious effort now to do that). The same would be on a takedown - don't rush the call. You are more likely to make the wrong call calling it too soon than too late. It's not perfect - you can still miss some things that you maybe should have called, but slow down and make sure the action has played out and you are more likely to get it right. My least favorite call is when I jump the gun on an escape that goes straight to a takedown. Was it really an escape or just a reversal? If I had just waited a second, I would have known better. So how to interpret reaction time? If it falls apart by the time I am ready to make the call, it didn't happen. Of course, that depends on your timing, but I have a lot of patience. Maybe too much at times. Maybe "reaction time" refers to MY reaction time - do I have enough time to react to make the call? Again, this is what we talk about in high school, and I don't speak for an NCAA official. Although we do talk about watching them to see how they do things., -
Arnold/Ryder no takedown call (reaction time)
Pablo replied to BaldAt23's topic in College Wrestling
To be fair, I'm not an NCAA official, and just do high school. You all are focusing on the issue of reaction time, but when we (officials) talk about take downs, we are always talking about control. Is control established? And that means on the mat (which can be a tripod),** not standing. It's crazy, but what constitutes control can even depend on whether control has been established. Someone above brought up the HS tournament match where the wrestler was given a reversal as opposed to an escape + takedown. I saw that and didn't have any problem with the call there, either. The official clearly indicated that he still had green in control, despite the fact that he was only really holding an arm, but yeah, once control has been established, that can still count, although if they were on their feet, it would never be considered a takedown. I think the biggest problem with that call was that the scorekeeper originally gave the wrestler an escape and takedown, so they had to go to the bench and correct the score. The official was clear all along that it was a reversal. Had the score been done correctly in the first place, it wouldn't have been nearly as controversial. **I was working one night with a guy who is probably the best official in the state, and he got on me for that - he said, patience is good, and I did a good job of letting the action develop and didn't make the quick call, but control with the hands down is a takedown so go ahead and call it. It was an awesome experience working with him. The best part was, the things the coaches were bitching about, he was like, nah, you were great there, just work on this other stuff that they didn't talk about... -
Arnold/Ryder no takedown call (reaction time)
Pablo replied to BaldAt23's topic in College Wrestling
For the stall call, I realize Burroughs is an OkC homer, but note that the announcers predicted it - they said, Arnold can't turn around here or he's going to get hit for stalling, and that is exactly what happened. He turned away, he got hit. I also expected it for the same reason. I thought it was a pretty obvious call. You can all be picking nits and saying how you don't like it, but, man, if it's so obvious that it can be predicted, you can't really say it's that bad of a call. -
Arnold/Ryder no takedown call (reaction time)
Pablo replied to BaldAt23's topic in College Wrestling
From my perspective as an official, I don't see the control on the mat. I'm sure you can find a screen shot with his hands on the mat and Arnold with a hold, but that's an instant and cannot be used to determine "beyond reaction time." The rule quoted above refers to "beyond reaction time" which leaves a lot to be determined, but I figure, if Joey Blaze didn't get the take down last week (he had it a lot longer), then this is not a TD either. -
PSU/Princeton and Iowa/OSU Draftkings betting lines
Pablo replied to BaldAt23's topic in College Wrestling
Unfortunately, Pablo is working this week on assessment, so I'm not able to run a dual ranking. I'd be interested in seeing what it would predict. People have often asked me if I ever use Pablo for betting, or could I. In principle, I could, but I wouldn't expect much, because it's up against informed betters. But I've never looked into it. My initial response was, "Who the hell is betting on NCAA women's volleyball?" but nowadays, there's a lot more action. -
[this is the silliness of RPI - just thought I'd mention]
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Not sure how to think about this question. Are you looking for a large percentage of losses by 4 or less? Or just a lot of losses by 4 or less? Or at least X losses? I would figure, guys that don't lose much (iow, really good wrestlers) won't lose by much when they do lose, most likely - that's the characteristics of a good wrestler - lots of big wins, few losses but they are close. What I think you want to find in this exercise mostly are wrestlers who are better than their record suggests. The 10 - 10 guys, but those losses are close and so could be considered more like "almost wins." I don't know anyone in that boat, but I can tell you, on the flip side, is someone like Lucas Byrd, who sits undefeated but is not dominating opponents like you would expect for an elite wrestler. I mentioned this the other day, with Boarman from Purdue as a good example. Byrd pulls out a 5 -4 win. Drake Ayala comes a week later and techs him. They both get the win, but Ayala's result is more what you'd expect for a top 5 guy wrestling #50. Byrd has a lot of examples like this - wins, but not overwhelming. That's why Pablo is not on board, despite no losses. I should note that, despite what coaches like to say, when assessing wrestlers, it's not just enough to win. How it happens absolutely matters. if you look at wrestlers who face each other twice in a season, the outcome of the first match very much informs the second. I've mentioned this recently.... The winner of the first match wins the second 80% of the time.*** But how that win occurs changes things. If the guy wins by a TF, he goes on to win 96% of the time. If he wins in SV, it's only 58% of the time. In-between, there is basically a straight relationship that between the point difference and the win probability (it's not linear in winning percentage, but there is an anaytical relationship). What I am saying is that, yeah, guys who win close matches aren't as likely to win going forward as guys who win big (falls are somewhere in-between - quick falls are better than late falls). ***that 80% rematch success rate is really interesting, because 75-80% is pretty common across the board in athletics. For example, in college volleyball (men's and women's) it's 75%. I have even looked at Indiana high school wrestlng (in the state tournament series) and even there it is like 80%. Pro-sports are a lot worse - NFL football, for example (where you have to control for home and away) is more like 65%, and women's tennis was also in that 60 - 65% range. If I remember right, in the NFL previous matches lost all predictive value in about 5 weeks (after that it was basically 50/50). In NCAA wrestling, matches lose about half of their predictive value in 100 days (so a guy who has an 85% chance of winning the rematch if they wrestle immediately has that drop to about 60% after 100 days; Pablo weights most recent matches more heavily and uses that 100 day half-life for the weighting).
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I could be missing a match, though
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Of the 7 win club, the best is Hendrickson from Oklahoma, who only has 10 wins overall. So has scored no more than 4 in 7 of his 10 wins. Daugherty has 11 wins, Murphy and Keslar have 12. For the 6s, Bailey, Robinson and Ulrich have 10 wins. For the 5s, Ferrari and Nelson have 9 wins. These are the guys who have more than half their wins scoring 4 or fewer
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This is easy to address with my Pablo database. The most I find is 7 wins where the winner has 4 points or fewer. These are absolute values, not percentage of matches 125:George Mason_Ben Monn 125:Minnesota_Jore Volk 125:Oklahoma_Conrad Hendriksen 133:North Dakota State_Tristan Daugherty 133:SIU Edwardsville_Marcel Lopez 133:West Virginia_Gunner Andrick 157:Clarion_Wesley Barnes 157:Navy_Jonathan Ley 157:SIU Edwardsville_PJ Murphy 165:Pittsburgh_Jared Keslar 184:Virginia Tech_Jaden Bullock 285:Missouri_Jarrett Stoner 285:Northern Illinois_Sean Carroll Those with 6 133:Rider_Will Betancourt 141:Iowa_Nasir Bailey 141:Utah Valley_Haiden Drury 157:Hofstra_Frank Volpe 157:Wisconsin_Lane Robinson 174:Oklahoma_Carter Schubert 184:Bucknell_Tyler Bienus 197:Brown_Andrew Reall 197:Hofstra_Will Conlon 197:Oklahoma State_Cody Merrill 285:American_Emmanuel Ulrich 285:Binghamton_Trent Sibble Those with 5 125:Binghamton_Carson Wagner 133:Cornell_Tyler Ferrara 133:Northwestern_Sean Spidle 141:Bellarmine_AJ Rallo 141:Central Michigan_Nick Blackburn 149:Appalachian State_Kaden Keiser 149:Cal Poly_Andre Gonzales 149:Davidson_Anderson Heap 149:Ohio State_Maddox Shaw 149:Purdue_Gavin Brown 149:Virginia Tech_Collin Gaj 157:Lock Haven_Nick Stampoulos 157:Maryland_Kal Miller 157:Nebraska_Antrell Taylor 157:Rutgers_Conner Harer 157:Virginia_Colton Washleski 165:Columbia_Cesar Alvan 165:Northern Illinois_Brett Smith 165:Pennsylvania_Sean Seefeldt 184:Iowa_Angelo Ferrari 184:Lehigh_Rylan Rogers 197:Minnesota_Gavin Nelson 197:North Carolina_Robert Platt 285:Northwestern_Dirk Morley 285:Rider_Hogan Swenski 285:Spartan Combat RTC_Rocco Dellagata 285:Virginia Tech_Parker Ferrell
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Preliminary results. First some info on methodology: What I look at are wrestlers who have faced each other twice in a season. I look at who won the first match, and how, and then see how they do in the second match. Right now I have about 2600 match pairs (2000 from last season and 600 from so far this season). For example, I can tell you that, absent any other information, the wrestler who wins the first match goes on to win the rematch about 80% of the time. I can break things down from there, too. For example, a wreslter who pins his opponent in the first match goes on to win the rematch ... 80% of the time. Sometimes pins indicate dominance, but pins are also a way for a weaker wrestler to pull off an upset. Tech falls are fare more robust - a guy who wins by tech fall in match one wins the rematch 96% of the time. A guy who wins in SV or other overtime, however, only wins the rematch 60% of the time - that makes sense, a SV win means they are close. I have 228 match pairs where the first match was won by 1 point. On average, a guy who wins by 1 point goes on to win the rematch 65% of the time. Because the data is light, I did some binning, so there is some overlaop. Here's the winning pct in the rematch given the points scored by the winner in match 1 1 - 2: 67% (48 data points) 2 -4: 61% (105 data points) 4 - 6: 69% (109) 6 - 8: 64% (45) 8 - 10: 59% (22) I don't need to run a statistical test to determine there is no correlation there (although I did run a statistical test and there is no correlation there) For now, I am certainly justified in just using point differential. Any differences are going to be too small to make a difference.
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I've been thinking about looking into this in Pablo rankings- what's a better outcome in terms of future performance, winning 2-1 or winning 10 - 9? Right now, I just look at point differential, but I've been curious lately if there is a difference. In volleyball, where Pablo started, it's very clearly point percentage, but that is something that can basically derived from first principles (it's about point probablity, and the big-time vb analysts work it from that perspective). In the NFL, on the other hand, the best predictor is, in fact, offensive output, and not point difference (point differential is related to offensive output, so it's easy to think they are the same). So I wonder if wrestling is better predicted by point differential, where 2-1 is the same as 10-9, or total points? Or maybe it is point percentage, where 2 -1 is better than 10-9 (it's possible, because one could argue that 10-9 is moe of a crapshoot and therfore the outcome is more random). It's that time of year when I should start looking at some analysis anyway, to strengthen the weighting on the model, if nothing else. There will be a lot more data after conference tournaments, though (and there is even more data after NCAAs), so I've been holding off.
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Yeah, that non-call at 141 was an outcome changer! For those who didn't see - tied 4-4 last seconds of the third. Kale gets control as they are going out of bounds. It's one of those "they went flying and landed out with him in control." If they give that TD, Kale is up 3 and on top with 5 seconds left and will win. But they don't give it to him. They go to SV and Peterson gets a TD for the win. That's how close that match was - a matter of inches on the TD.
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Here are a couple of screen shots I got That transitioned to this Ref did not give a takedown, even after review
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In my opening post, I commented that Pablo is still waiting for Byrd to do something good, and called out his 5-4 win over Boarman as an example of underwhelming. You can see the difference between him and Drake Ayala today - Ayala dominated him and won by TF. In the Pablo world, that's what you'd expect to see for a top 5 guy vs #50. At 197 I noted (true freshman) Noah Weaver making the top 50. He was in the lineup today for Purdue against Iowa. Got pinned, but it was interesting to see him in the lineup. Clearly the coaches have noticed that he's been wrestling well.
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I was there (and have video). It was a fun match to watch. I couldn't see well enough to see if Blaze got that TD early on. Nice match for Joey.
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285 Won Lost Rating 1. 285:Iowa State_Yonger Bastida 17 0 9532 2. 285:NC State_Isaac Trumble 10 0 8636 3. 285:Michigan_Taye Ghadiali 15 2 8467 4. 285:Ohio State_Nick Feldman 15 3 8367 5. 285:Oklahoma State_Konner Doucet 11 2 8136 6. 285:Nebraska_AJ Ferrari 10 2 8118 7. 285:Nebraska_Cade Ziola 16 2 8087 8. 285:Penn State_Lucas Cochran 9 1 7906 9. 285:Wisconsin_Braxton Amos 15 3 7864 10. 285:Wyoming_Christian Carroll 14 4 7831 11. 285:Penn State_Cole Mirasola 13 4 7793 12. 285:Virginia Tech_Jimmy Mullen 18 5 7568 13. 285:Navy_Spencer Lanosga 13 5 7449 14. 285:Cal Poly_Trevor Tinker 7 3 7370 15. 285:Arizona State_David Szuba 15 8 7281 16. 285:Army West Point_Brady Colbert 15 4 7278 17. 285:Minnesota_Koy Hopke 17 7 7258 18. 285:Pittsburgh_Dayton Pitzer 11 3 7219 19. 285:Oklahoma_Juan Mora 11 4 7154 20. 285:Rutgers_Hunter Catka 11 4 7050 21. 285:Illinois_Luke Luffman 10 3 6869 22. 285:Drexel_Nate Schon 11 3 6861 23. 285:Duke_Connor Barket 14 3 6462 24. 285:Northern Illinois_Devon Dawson 24 5 6401 25. 285:Army West Point_Austin Kohlhofer 12 1 6388 26. 285:Columbia_Vincent Mueller 17 6 6382 27. 285:Michigan State_Max Vanadia 13 2 6369 28. 285:Minnesota_Bennett Tabor 10 6 6341 29. 285:Arizona State_Ben Szuba 14 2 6335 30. 285:Oklahoma State_Benjamin Mower 6 4 6232 31. 285:Little Rock_Michael Gasper 8 6 6220 32. 285:Brown_Alex Semenenko 19 4 6198 33. 285:Missouri_Jarrett Stoner 18 11 6134 34. 285:Utah Valley_Jack Forbes 17 8 6119 35. 285:Army West Point_Lucas Stoddard 8 3 6063 36. 285:Bucknell_Lucas Lawler 12 11 6011 37. 285:Cornell_Ashton Davis 12 11 5993 38. 285:Spartan Combat RTC_Rocco Dellagata 21 7 5947 39. 285:Illinois_Ryan Boersma 5 10 5894 40. 285:Cornell_Cy Kruse 10 6 5886 41. 285:South Dakota State_Luke Rasmussen 8 7 5857 42. 285:Virginia Tech_Parker Ferrell 15 7 5785 43. 285:George Mason_James Blackman 12 4 5766 44. 285:Virginia_Brenan Morgan 7 5 5722 45. 285:Michigan State_Josh Terrill 10 7 5700 46. 285:Kent State_Brentan Simmerman 12 6 5698 47. 285:American_Emmanuel Ulrich 10 9 5688 48. 285:South Dakota State_Micah Hach 11 3 5582 49. 285:Central Michigan_Bryan Caves 14 9 5556 50. 285:Appalachian State_Stephan Monchery 15 6 5539
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197 Won Lost Rating 1. 197:Penn State_Josh Barr 14 0 10462 2. 197:Iowa State_Rocky Elam 12 0 8779 3. 197:Wyoming_Joey Novak 11 2 8406 4. 197:Oklahoma State_Cody Merrill 12 2 8211 5. 197:Nebraska_Camden McDanel 15 5 7989 6. 197:Oregon State_Justin Rademacher 19 2 7974 7. 197:Missouri_Evan Bates 20 4 7936 8. 197:Ohio State_Luke Geog 12 4 7935 9. 197:South Dakota State_Bennett Berge 11 1 7892 10. 197:Pittsburgh_Mac Stout 12 2 7836 11. 197:Stanford_Angelo Posada 12 4 7778 12. 197:Rider_Brock Zurawski 15 4 7460 13. 197:Indiana_Gabe Sollars 8 7 7305 14. 197:Maryland_Branson John 15 5 7283 15. 197:Ohio State_Seth Shumate 15 5 7246 16. 197:Rutgers_Remy Cotton 10 3 7244 17. 197:Virginia Tech_Sonny Sasso 19 4 7223 18. 197:Wisconsin_Wyatt Ingham 10 6 7205 19. 197:Brown_Andrew Reall 24 4 7160 20. 197:North Dakota State_Devin Wasley 15 6 7156 21. 197:West Virginia_Rune Lawrence 12 8 7009 22. 197:Ohio_Zayne Lehman 13 2 6922 23. 197:Michigan_Hayden Walters 6 4 6905 24. 197:Spartan Combat RTC_Jude Correa 16 3 6882 25. 197:Michigan State_Kael Wisler 18 4 6853 26. 197:Purdue_Ben Vanadia 14 7 6771 27. 197:Minnesota_Gavin Nelson 9 10 6749 28. 197:Illinois_Dylan Connell 7 7 6651 29. 197:Bucknell_Dillon Bechtold 7 3 6643 30. 197:Iowa_Harvey Ludington 11 4 6631 31. 197:Lehigh_JT Davis 12 4 6616 32. 197:Utah Valley_Kael Bennie 11 12 6580 33. 197:Navy_Zyan Hall 11 7 6515 34. 197:Chattanooga_Kade Rule 12 5 6477 35. 197:Northern Iowa_John Gunderson 6 6 6465 36. 197:Columbia_Jack Wehmeyer 15 5 6452 37. 197:Navy_Payton Thomas 9 6 6452 38. 197:Army West Point_Wolfgang Frable 15 8 6328 39. 197:Illinois_Cade Lautt 5 6 6221 40. 197:Oklahoma State_Austin Johnson 8 3 6173 41. 197:Central Michigan_Luke Cochran 17 8 6171 42. 197:North Carolina_Robert Platt 11 7 6109 43. 197:Binghamton_Mikey Squires 12 2 6106 44. 197:Air Force_Karson Tompkins 13 6 6086 45. 197:Pennsylvania_Martin Cosgrove 10 8 5964 46. 197:Lock Haven_Tucker Hogan 13 9 5923 47. 197:NC State_Patrick Brophy 12 7 5895 48. 197:Cal Poly_Levi Bussey 10 3 5803 49. 197:Virginia_Steven Burrell Jr. 8 5 5799 50. 197:Purdue_Noah Weaver 10 3 5760 (Pablo Comment: Noah Weaver, look at you, man! Great job!)
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184 Won Lost Rating 1. 184:Missouri_Aeoden Sinclair 21 1 9039 2. 184:Penn State_Rocco Welsh 16 0 9033 3. 184:Minnesota_Max McEnelly 16 1 8861 4. 184:Iowa_Angelo Ferrari 9 1 8382 5. 184:Ohio State_Dylan Fishback 14 5 8240 6. 184:Franklin & Marshall_James Conway 25 1 8126 7. 184:Michigan_Brock Mantanona 11 4 7882 8. 184:Nebraska_Silas Allred 12 6 7822 9. 184:Wyoming_Eddie Neitenbach 12 3 7664 10. 184:Rutgers_Shane CartagenaWalsh 14 4 7466 11. 184:Oklahoma_Brian Soldano 8 3 7336 12. 184:Illinois_Chris Moore 12 5 7290 13. 184:Oklahoma State_Zack Ryder 9 6 7212 14. 184:West Virginia_Ian Bush 12 7 7169 15. 184:Lehigh_Rylan Rogers 13 5 7048 16. 184:Indiana_Sam Goin 6 4 6904 17. 184:Columbia_Aaron Ayzerov 9 6 6896 18. 184:North Carolina_Jake Dailey 14 1 6874 19. 184:Columbia_Joe Curtis 16 3 6868 20. 184:American_Caleb Campos 15 3 6861 21. 184:Pittsburgh_Chase Kranitz 10 6 6852 22. 184:Iowa State_Isaac Dean 15 4 6826 23. 184:Cal Poly_Ceasar Garza 13 2 6647 24. 184:Cornell_Christian Hansen 20 7 6604 25. 184:Appalachian State_Tomas Brooker 18 8 6595 26. 184:Ohio_Sal Perrine 13 4 6546 27. 184:Stanford_Abraham Wojcikiewicz 12 9 6380 28. 184:Purdue_James Rowley 11 7 6323 29. 184:Bucknell_Tyler Bienus 15 7 6264 30. 184:George Mason_Malachi DuVall 17 4 6223 31. 184:Virginia Tech_Jaden Bullock 14 10 6214 32. 184:Lock Haven_Sam Gautreau 8 3 6172 33. 184:Oregon State_TJ McDonnell 12 7 6035 34. 184:North Dakota State_Aidan Brenot 11 6 6017 35. 184:Arizona State_Shay Addison 4 6 5918 36. 184:South Dakota State_Brock Fettig 11 10 5882 37. 184:Utah Valley_Caleb Uhlenhopp 12 10 5877 38. 184:Air Force_Cy Fowler 9 1 5861 39. 184:Lehigh_Jared Schoppe 11 5 5843 40. 184:SIU Edwardsville_Deron Pulliam 8 4 5741 41. 184:Central Michigan_Adrien Cramer 10 9 5609 42. 184:Chattanooga_Landon Jones 15 8 5576 43. 184:Indiana_Roman Rogotzke 9 4 5569 44. 184:Navy_Gage Yackee 8 11 5510 45. 184:Missouri_Logan Cole 12 7 5509 46. 184:South Dakota State_Jarrett Wadsen 8 2 5486 47. 184:Virginia_Dylan Newsome 11 7 5481 48. 184:Drexel_Ethan Wilson 10 8 5448 49. 184:Presbyterian_Reed Douglass 11 4 5420 50. 184:Pittsburgh_Luke Daly 9 4 5379
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174 Won Lost Rating 1. 174:Penn State_Levi Haines 17 0 13236 2. 174:Ohio State_Carson Kharchla 13 3 12128 3. 174:Iowa_Patrick Kennedy 13 1 12005 4. 174:Nebraska_Christopher Minto 15 4 11845 5. 174:Oklahoma State_Alex Facundo 12 5 11684 6. 174:Cornell_Simon Ruiz 10 0 11655 7. 174:Michigan_Beau Mantanona 12 5 11169 8. 174:Missouri_Cam Steed 10 4 11147 9. 174:Navy_Danny Wask 14 3 11107 10. 174:NC State_Matty Singleton 14 2 11080 11. 174:Iowa State_MJ Gaitan 10 3 10825 12. 174:Oregon State_Daschle Lamer 16 3 10725 13. 174:Northern Iowa_Jared Simma 11 4 10712 14. 174:Bucknell_Myles Takats 15 4 10682 15. 174:Columbia_Nick Fine 19 7 10679 16. 174:Penn State_Will Henckel 9 1 10620 17. 174:Oklahoma_Carter Schubert 12 3 10524 18. 174:West Virginia_Brody Conley 14 4 10369 19. 174:Pittsburgh_Luca Augustine 7 3 10362 20. 174:Indiana_Derek Gilcher 10 6 10279 21. 174:Nebraska_Tyler Eise 13 3 10234 22. 174:Drexel_Jasiah Queen 13 6 10224 23. 174:Northwestern_Eddie Enright 18 8 10219 24. 174:Purdue_Brody Baumann 14 3 10201 25. 174:Rutgers_Lenny Pinto 7 3 10176 26. 174:South Dakota State_Moses EspinozaOwens 20 5 10161 27. 174:Ohio_Garrett Thompson 9 1 10100 28. 174:Binghamton_Carter Baer 14 2 10096 29. 174:Illinois_Colin Kelly 12 5 10076 30. 174:Lock Haven_Avery Bassett 15 5 10054 31. 174:Virginia Tech_Sergio Desiante 18 10 10031 32. 174:Arizona State_Cael Valencia 12 8 9979 33. 174:George Mason_Logan Messer 18 5 9673 34. 174:Minnesota_Ethan Riddle 13 8 9637 35. 174:Northern Iowa_Izzy Moreno 9 5 9637 36. 174:Princeton_Holden Garcia 11 7 9620 37. 174:Rutgers_Jordan Chapman 8 8 9452 38. 174:Army West Point_Cooper Haase 13 11 9418 39. 174:Duke_Aidan Wallace 22 2 9417 40. 174:Wyoming_Lane Foard 9 2 9305 41. 174:North Carolina_Nicholas Fea 7 4 9301 42. 174:North Carolina_Collin Carrigan 5 6 9170 43. 174:Rider_Enrique Munguia 11 11 9159 44. 174:Minnesota_Clayton Whiting 13 7 9140 45. 174:Northern Colorado_Murphy Menke 7 8 9126 46. 174:Ohio_Jeremy Olszko 6 4 9121 47. 174:Wisconsin_Luke Condon 7 9 9109 48. 174:Wyoming_Riley Davis 6 6 9075 49. 174:Army West Point_Andrew Christie 19 10 9051 50. 174:Pittsburgh_Bode Marlow 11 3 9040
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165 Won Lost Rating 1. 165:Penn State_Mitchell Mesenbrink 16 0 11047 2. 165:Iowa_Mikey Caliendo 12 2 9229 3. 165:Lehigh_Max Brignola 11 3 8654 4. 165:Oklahoma State_LaDarion Lockett 12 0 8386 5. 165:Purdue_Joey Blaze 16 0 8229 6. 165:Illinois_Braeden Scoles 12 5 7844 7. 165:Arizona State_Nicco Ruiz 17 5 7612 8. 165:Northern Iowa_Ryder Downey 14 3 7586 9. 165:Nebraska_LJ Araujo 11 6 7492 10. 165:NC State_Will Denny 13 2 7342 11. 165:Iowa State_Connor Euton 13 4 7339 12. 165:Ohio State_Paddy Gallagher 10 5 7313 13. 165:Rutgers_Ryan Ford 8 3 7283 14. 165:Princeton_Ty Whalen 18 4 7219 15. 165:Virginia Tech_Ryan Burton 19 6 7191 16. 165:Minnesota_Andrew Sparks 16 4 7181 17. 165:Little Rock_Matty Bianchi 14 1 7102 18. 165:North Carolina_Bryce Hepner 9 2 7017 19. 165:Indiana_Tyler Lillard 9 4 7010 20. 165:Missouri_Maxx Mayfield 9 4 6999 21. 165:Ohio State_e`Than Birden 18 7 6954 22. 165:SIU Edwardsville_Brock Woodcock 18 7 6937 23. 165:Army West Point_Gunner Filipowicz 15 5 6911 24. 165:Iowa State_Aiden Riggins 11 3 6899 25. 165:Rutgers_Andrew Barbosa 10 5 6899 26. 165:Pennsylvania_Sean Seefeldt 16 5 6666 27. 165:Oregon State_Matthew Olguin 9 5 6535 28. 165:Edinboro_Ryan Burgos 15 3 6483 29. 165:Columbia_Cesar Alvan 22 7 6394 30. 165:Wyoming_Sloan Swan 11 7 6375 31. 165:South Dakota State_Jacob Herm 8 5 6353 32. 165:Bucknell_Noah Mulvaney 18 4 6284 33. 165:Virginia Tech_Mac Church 16 7 6260 34. 165:Michigan_Dylan Gilcher 7 3 6198 35. 165:South Dakota State_Marcus EspinozaOwens 8 9 6051 36. 165:Virginia Tech_Ben Weader 12 5 6031 37. 165:Navy_Dylan Elmore 14 8 5968 38. 165:Oklahoma_Peyten Kellar 6 7 5932 39. 165:The Citadel_Thomas Snipes 16 4 5849 40. 165:Kent State_Chris Earnest 15 6 5843 41. 165:Cornell_Louie Cerchio 7 12 5838 42. 165:Northern Iowa_Jack Thomsen 9 5 5827 43. 165:Iowa State_Manny Rojas 7 3 5815 44. 165:Brown_Max Norman 17 11 5800 45. 165:Indiana_Chris Crawford 24 7 5797 46. 165:Harvard_Joseph Cangro 9 13 5747 47. 165:Pittsburgh_Jared Keslar 12 9 5723 48. 165:Missouri_Dominic Bambinelli 9 8 5706 49. 165:West Virginia_Shawn Taylor 6 8 5667 50. 165:Virginia_Michael Murphy 5 7 5613
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157 Won Lost Rating 1. 157:Ohio State_Brandon Cannon 13 1 9266 2. 157:Cornell_Meyer Shapiro 10 0 9074 3. 157:Oklahoma State_Landon Robideau 15 1 8953 4. 157:Stanford_Daniel Cardenas 12 3 8854 5. 157:Penn State_PJ Duke 15 1 8826 6. 157:Illinois_Kannon Webster 15 1 8793 7. 157:West Virginia_Ty Watters 14 0 8541 8. 157:Nebraska_Antrell Taylor 16 2 8298 9. 157:Iowa State_Vinny Zerban 10 2 8238 10. 157:Penn State_Joe Sealey 12 2 7781 11. 157:Lehigh_Logan Rozynski 8 2 7614 12. 157:Pennsylvania_Jude Swisher 15 3 7571 13. 157:Missouri_Teague Travis 11 3 7551 14. 157:Minnesota_Charlie Millard 15 6 7397 15. 157:Pittsburgh_Dylan Evans 9 2 7337 16. 157:Michigan_Cameron Catrabone 10 5 7092 17. 157:South Dakota State_Cael Swensen 18 4 6934 18. 157:Buffalo_Kaleb Burgess 10 2 6892 19. 157:Missouri_J Conway 12 5 6861 20. 157:Ohio_Derek Raike 13 4 6762 21. 157:Iowa_Victor Voinovich 8 3 6761 22. 157:Columbia_Kai Owen 12 4 6755 23. 157:Arizona State_Chance McLane 9 6 6688 24. 157:George Mason_DJ Mcgee 18 1 6637 25. 157:Central Michigan_Mason Shrader 16 5 6625 26. 157:Lock Haven_Nick Stampoulos 21 6 6605 27. 157:Wisconsin_Luke Mechler 11 6 6577 28. 157:Harvard_Jimmy Harrington 16 5 6574 29. 157:Indiana_Bryce Lowery 7 7 6574 30. 157:North Carolina_Laird Root 12 5 6568 31. 157:North Dakota State_Gavin Drexler 10 7 6544 32. 157:Purdue_Stoney Buell 11 6 6509 33. 157:Rutgers_Tony White 8 6 6498 34. 157:Pittsburgh_Vince Bouzakis 11 5 6408 35. 157:Davidson_Tanner Peake 7 6 6360 36. 157:Virginia_Colton Washleski 14 6 6349 37. 157:Oregon State_CJ Hamblin 11 5 6330 38. 157:Little Rock_Jaivon Jones 10 8 6294 39. 157:Navy_Jonathan Ley 19 8 6280 40. 157:Cal Poly_Jagger French 13 5 6221 41. 157:California Baptist_Drayden Morton 9 9 6113 42. 157:The Citadel_Kyrel Leavell 13 7 6060 43. 157:Cornell_Benny Rogers 6 6 6045 44. 157:Rutgers_Conner Harer 16 6 6012 45. 157:Army West Point_Joe Antonio 17 7 6006 46. 157:The Citadel_Jacob Silka 9 6 5998 47. 157:Northern Iowa_RJ Weston 9 7 5984 48. 157:Oklahoma_Layton Schneider 5 5 5948 49. 157:North Carolina_Joey Showalter 17 5 5939 50. 157:Iowa State_Kane Naaktgeboren 9 8 5925
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149 Won Lost Rating 1. 149:Penn State_Shayne Van Ness 17 0 9885 2. 149:Cornell_Jaxon Joy 21 1 8900 3. 149:Arizona State_Kaleb Larkin 12 1 8405 4. 149:Missouri_Seth Mendoza 12 2 8313 5. 149:Nebraska_Chance Lamer 13 4 7973 6. 149:Stanford_Aden Valencia 9 6 7969 7. 149:Utah Valley_David Evans 12 2 7927 8. 149:Oklahoma State_Casey Swiderski 10 6 7812 9. 149:Ohio State_Ethan Stiles 12 4 7790 10. 149:Virginia Tech_Collin Gaj 17 5 7762 11. 149:Penn State_Connor Pierce 11 2 7662 12. 149:NC State_Koy Buesgens 17 2 7647 13. 149:Iowa_Ryder Block 8 5 7644 14. 149:Iowa State_Jacob Frost 9 3 7599 15. 149:Michigan_Sergio Lemley 18 1 7594 16. 149:Wisconsin_Joseph Zargo 12 3 7542 17. 149:Pennsylvania_Cross Wasilewski 19 2 7537 18. 149:SIU Edwardsville_Caleb Tyus 16 1 7348 19. 149:Michigan_Lachlan McNeil 9 4 7317 20. 149:North Dakota State_Max Petersen 10 5 7193 21. 149:George Mason_Kaden Cassidy 12 1 6905 22. 149:Little Rock_Brock Herman 9 3 6885 23. 149:Illinois_Michael Gioffre 12 6 6863 24. 149:Princeton_Eligh Rivera 11 4 6828 25. 149:Missouri_Josh Edmond 18 4 6766 26. 149:Northwestern_Sam Cartella 9 6 6668 27. 149:Minnesota_Drew Roberts 8 5 6645 28. 149:Virginia Tech_Noah Nininger 8 3 6624 29. 149:South Dakota State_Alek Martin 4 6 6597 30. 149:Pittsburgh_Kade Brown 9 5 6549 31. 149:Morgan State_Eugene Harney 19 4 6526 32. 149:Lock Haven_Lucas Kapusta 16 4 6496 33. 149:Purdue_Gavin Brown 14 7 6487 34. 149:Virginia_Wynton Denkins 12 7 6388 35. 149:Rider_Dylan Layton 16 7 6329 36. 149:Ohio State_Maddox Shaw 20 4 6270 37. 149:Appalachian State_Kaden Keiser 21 8 6210 38. 149:Edinboro_Ryan Michaels 8 6 6203 39. 149:Wyoming_Gabe Willochell 11 5 6135 40. 149:Pennsylvania_Kelly Dunnigan 15 7 6118 41. 149:Oklahoma State_Kolter Burton 10 5 6092 42. 149:The Citadel_Carson DesRosier 11 6 6082 43. 149:Cornell_Ethan Fernandez 8 3 6077 44. 149:Cal Poly_Andre Gonzales 15 9 6052 45. 149:Indiana_Joey Buttler 9 8 6045 46. 149:Navy_Kaemen Smith 8 8 6005 47. 149:Oregon State_Noah Tolentino 15 8 5992 48. 149:Virginia_Jayce Paridon 10 7 5970 49. 149:Rutgers_Andrew Clark 7 7 5959 50. 149:Rutgers_Devon Magro 7 5 5927
