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59 minutes ago, Danny Deck said:

It isn't hard to find someone of any political stripe saying stupid things. Just this week someone on the right said Churchill was the main villain of WW2. Which is more timely, and someone with a much larger platform than whoever this professor is.

was this candace owens? 

1 hour ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Great question and one I hear from the conservatives, 'why do feel it is okay to push YOUR views on other people and insist they conform to your stance and the language you choose to use, but it isn't okay for others to turn around and do the same to you just the opposite opinion'?

It was the same question and/or sentiment that has been used to justify all sorts of societal maladies such as the abolition of slavery, women suffrage, civil rights, gays in the military, and now trans rights. Sorry that your ideology forces you to see these PEOPLE as less than people and in so less deserving of equality. But you're wrong. At every step, in each of the above mentioned situations, you and people that espoused that same sentiment have been wrong. The next time something like this comes up, and it will, you'll still be wrong. Will you have learned? Hopefully, but I'm not holding my breath. 

To answer the second part of the question. Because the opposite of giving someone equal rights is oppression. We don't do that here. Or better yet, we try not to. We still do quite a bit because people like you still have their hands on levers of power and decide who is worthy of equality and who isn't and still decide to hold people back for infantile reasons that are couched in the very question that you asked. 

"Funny part is...99%" not really an important point but I'll tackle it because this is going to be long anyway... This is a BS stat and indicative of how you see yourself and how much support you feel you have an issue. There is plenty of name calling on this site. 

Science: why is it you site and grasp onto one point of 'science' but ignore the other ones on this topic. There may be two ways X and Y chromosomes arrange but there is a variety of ways that they are expressed. If my memory serves we have already talked about XX people having genitalia that typically appears on people with XY and vise versa. These things aren't as cut and dry as you want or portray them to be. And digging your heels into the 'there's only two sexes' as if that is an answer to anything on this topic is childish and ignorant of all the information we currently have on the topic. 

And yes, denying people their dignity on the basis of 'science' as you put it is transphobic because of all the widely available information that tells you that holding that position is dangerous to trans people. It is. Regardless of your feelings. Denying them, out of whole clothe, the simplicity of using a bathroom they prefer to associate with is putting their lives in danger. You prefer the lives of your family and I understand that but you have to understand that making and holding to these imaginary rules(and bathroom rules are imaginary or at least quite flexible) put trans people in danger. You can, and I feel you have, said quite matter of factly that you don't care about the lives of trans people and that IS transphobic. You're so scared of them that you would rather see them die or come to harm than use the bathroom of their choosing. 

Those opinions do oppress people. Sorry you don't want to see it. But they do. Denying something that everyone else has IS oppression. 

There are victims. I am not one of them, but I am happy to stand up for them. But there are and will continue to be as long as people like you hold opinions like this. 

I think you may have misinterpreted what I meant by 'Civil Rights'. What I meant was, your opinion on this topic is similar to those used to try to keep the Civil Rights Act from being passed or Women's Suffrage or a myriad of other things that small groups had to fight society for to establish equal rights under the law. 

But what rights do they not have, right now some of them don't have the right to try to get specific forms of health care. That's a right isn't it? I know you can't say 'Yes' because it'll open up a whole can of worms you're not ready to talk about. But suffice it to say you're wrong again. 

I suggest you read this article. It articulates a position opposite yours that you should consider: Harvard Crimson

This was fun, thanks. 

so you want to make everyone slaves to the left's agenda? 

12 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Is this a serious question? 

i really dont remember... who did he have to debate... maybe haley? 

1 hour ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

But no, I'm not a coward, again 45's just a moron. 

so you are afraid... 

1 hour ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

One side wants rich to get richer. If that's you and that's all you care about. Vote that way.

 

speaking of strawmen

1 hour ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

You clearly don't understand the point of your argument if that is your take away. 

My point on this topic has always been that you are simply scared of what society will look like if trans people are allowed the freedoms that they are asking for. You are fighting against giving those freedoms. Freedoms that you have failed to prove are harmful in any way other than, 'its just common sense'. When you pose a straw man question as a rebuttal you are either too ignorant of how to have a conversation about this, too emotional and thus resorting to fallacious tactics(don't be embarrassed it happens to just about everyone that is losing an argument), or you're doing it on purpose. 

I'm happy to explain things so that other people can read this and hopefully do better. But we've gone round and round about this. You have offered nothing to indicate you understand or are trying to understand the situation of trans people. But are solely interested in rejecting the rights and requests of a vulnerable population. For what reason? You feel(emotionally) that it is dangerous. I disagree and there is plenty of information that backs me up. If we want to just leave it there we can. You are wrong in this situation and as I've pointed out your position mirrors that of countless similar situations in the past. You, mistakenly, think it will endanger society, women, and/or children if this group is allowed into the melting pot. Again, you're wrong. I can't stress that enough. If it makes you feel better to have a tantrum about it, go ahead. But every time to mention something about trans people or just about anything disgustingly disingenuous about a vulnerable population for the sake of you maintaining the feeling comfort with your place in life. I will ask you to prove what you say is true. If you can't handle that. Sorry not sorry. 

trans people can do what they want but infringing on women's spaces is not their RIGHT.

your whole argument is based on that farce... which is why no point you make can be valid.

it isn't hard to find leftists saying stupid things

18 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Didn't someone just uncover a plot to pay right wing influencers to help 45 and hurt KH?

Yes.

Who bank rolled it? 

Russia.

Why do you think that is? 

Because 45 will be tougher on Russia with sanctions and trade embargoes and... oh ya the war they are currently fighting against our ally. 

This is a joke. I laughed. Thanks. 

lol

17 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

why are you?

im not afraid of women.

i am trying to protect women from misogynists like you

16 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

So nothing? 

13 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

You always have. Not surprised. That's why you're a coward. 

lol

says the master deflector 

2 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

In some states, receiving necessary health care. 

Using the bathroom they choose to identify with. 

You can't move away from areas with trans people. They live everywhere. 

 

 

i agree, if they are not receiving NECESSARY health care that's a problem

using the RR THEY identify with MAY be a problem.. are you willing to trample on women's rights?

and that was my point... people aren't moving away from them.

if you aren't a coward, why are you so afraid of trump? 

what freedoms do trans not have?

what freedoms could trans GAIN which would NOT take away from women?

again, people are moving away from areas with trans people? 

so like cities are emptying out? 

11 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

You clearly don't understand the point of your argument if that is your take away. 

My point on this topic has always been that you are simply scared of what society will look like if trans people are allowed the freedoms that they are asking for. You are fighting against giving those freedoms. Freedoms that you have failed to prove are harmful in any way other than, 'its just common sense'. When you pose a straw man question as a rebuttal you are either too ignorant of how to have a conversation about this, too emotional and thus resorting to fallacious tactics(don't be embarrassed it happens to just about everyone that is losing an argument), or you're doing it on purpose. 

I'm happy to explain things so that other people can read this and hopefully do better. But we've gone round and round about this. You have offered nothing to indicate you understand or are trying to understand the situation of trans people. But are solely interested in rejecting the rights and requests of a vulnerable population. For what reason? You feel(emotionally) that it is dangerous. I disagree and there is plenty of information that backs me up. If we want to just leave it there we can. You are wrong in this situation and as I've pointed out your position mirrors that of countless similar situations in the past. You, mistakenly, think it will endanger society, women, and/or children if this group is allowed into the melting pot. Again, you're wrong. I can't stress that enough. If it makes you feel better to have a tantrum about it, go ahead. But every time to mention something about trans people or just about anything disgustingly disingenuous about a vulnerable population for the sake of you maintaining the feeling comfort with your place in life. I will ask you to prove what you say is true. If you can't handle that. Sorry not sorry. 

Not addressing the point at all but pivoting to something else that justifies you keeping women in their place to be replaced by men. How misogynist of you! 

i can play the deflection game using your own posts

so you are good with being a misogynist

Just now, ThreePointTakedown said:

What evidence convinced you? 

the stuff i wasn't scared of

2 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Or is it? 

why are you so afraid of women? 

the 12 cranial nerves, which one are you having trouble with

7 hours ago, RockLobster said:

Clearly I'm dealing with a child here.

... so again, You were the one who called Trump an idiot. I agreed with you. And now you agree with me.

You are quite a spectacle. Calling Trump an idiot yourself, and then arguing with someone that agrees with you.

 

I'm not against home schoolin' but maybe this could be a focus for next week's courses.

The course could be called "Don't be a dope who shows he doesn't understand English or logic."

Maybe make a day of it.

i said he was an idiot.

you say he is a criminal and that is proof he is an idiot.

i disagree.

man you really dont know much