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  1. Covid pissed him off with the loss of a year and threat of losing another year. He kids had recently graduated Cornell so not at home. Most importantly, he had reached the magic 30 years as a NY state employee and locked in his pension. Who wouldn't want to take another job and, who knows, also start getting your pension at the same time. Don't things get stale after a long time and you are open to change. West coast would sound fun to me. Stanford needed him to save the program and they made it financially worth his while. Exciting to hit the west coast at a high academic school (where you are an expert in recruiting that kind of kid), where for the first time in your life as a coach you get to actually offer scholarships. Easy recruiting sell based on his prior experience at Cornell (which is why about 3 years in a row he had top 10 recruiting classes at Stanford). On the UNC thing. Who wouldn't want to move back to their alma matter where you where a national champ and still have buddies living locally. That much closer to your children. And, again, you are at a top 30 academic school that allows scholarships and supports wrestling a bit more than Stanford did. I don't think this needs a lot of discussion to unpack. Surprised the thread was this long
  2. Davidson blew my mind. But, I read their comments from the Athletic Director. They are opting in so they can pay the basketball teams. This was the home of Steph Curry and this is their sport. They felt since they are just paying basketball they don't have to spend the $22 million like the power 5 conferences are likely going to do. I read somewhere they could spend like $3-$5 million and get top tier basketball talent (if they can meet the academic rigor).
  3. If I remember correctly, I think Gilman is married to Mike Evans (former AA for Iowa) sister. That would mean his wife grew up near Harrisburg, PA. If he is heading back to state college it could be as simple as wife (and children if he has any) want to get back closer to family. Or the obvious that Cael poached him.
  4. If you opt in you have a roster cap of 30 wrestlers AND you are allowed up to 30 full scholarships if the institution wants to do that. Plus they can pay their wrestler cash payments as part of athletic department revenue sharing amongst an institutions athletes IF they want (most of this revenue money will go to football and men's basketball - the revenue generating sports). If you do not opt in (like the IVY League) they you can have as many wrestlers on your roster as you want. But you are bound by the NCAA Division 1 scholarship limit of 9.9 scholarships across the entire roster. So as examples: Lehigh does not opt in. They go business as usual. About 40 kids on the roster. A limit of 9.9 scholarships, meaning lots of partial scholarships (think 20%, 30%, with a few start higher, and some lower folks with nothing). They cannot pay their athletes. Just the normal family financial aid calculations and athletic scholarships. Penn State opts in: They are no longer limited to 9.9 scholarships. They must get there roster down to 30 wrestlers. They can give up to 30 full scholarships if they want. AND they can pay the guys revenue sharing (The universities are capped at like $22 million this first year across all the athletes on campus). Outside of Iowa, OK St, Penn State, I would be shocked to see more than maybe 15-20 scholarships maximum. Plus not much revenue sharing unless the other All American level guys.
  5. Dexter Manley is a former professional football player known for his time as a defensive end in the NFL. He played for several teams, including the Washington Redskins. Manley attended the University of Oklahoma and, despite spending five years there, revealed that he was functionally illiterate after graduation
  6. Of course the power 5 FOOTBALL teams had to opt in. We have some affiliate wrestling teams in the football conferences that don't square perfectly. Like the California and Little Rock in the Pac 12. So I presume as they are not Pac 12 FOOTBALL, maybe they get to decided to opt in or not. Many schools have come out publicly to affirmatively announce that their College or University is opting in. Others, like the Ivy have say they will not opt in. And a group have not yet commented. With just google search of individual schools I wasn't sure of (got some of the recent Flowrestling article) and see what the AI of yahoo told me. Here is the list as of today. Opting In Not yet In 1 Duke ACC 1 Air Force Big 12 2 NC State ACC 2 N. Colo Big 12 3 Pitt ACC 3 ND St Big 12 4 Stanford ACC 4 SDSU Big 12 5 UNC ACC 5 Utah Val Big 12 6 UVA ACC 6 American EIWA 7 VA Tech ACC 7 Army EIWA 8 Illinois Big 10 8 Binghamton EIWA 9 Indiana Big 10 9 Bucknell EIWA 10 Iowa Big 10 10 F&M EIWA 11 Maryland Big 10 11 Lehigh EIWA 12 Mich St Big 10 12 LIU EIWA 13 Michigan Big 10 13 Navy EIWA 14 Minn Big 10 14 Brown Ivy, Said NO 15 Nebraska Big 10 15 Columbia Ivy, Said NO 16 Northwest Big 10 16 Cornell Ivy, Said NO 17 OH St Big 10 17 Harvard Ivy, Said NO 18 PSU Big 10 18 Penn Ivy, Said NO 19 Purdue Big 10 19 Princeton Ivy, Said NO 20 Rutgers Big 10 20 Bloomsburg MAC 21 Wisconsin Big 10 21 Buffalo MAC 22 Arizona State Big 12 22 C. Mich MAC 23 Iowa St Big 12 23 Clarion MAC 24 OK St Big 12 24 Edinboro MAC 25 WVU Big 12 25 Kent State MAC 26 Cal Baptist Big 12 (Big West) 26 Lock Haven MAC 27 Wyoming Big 12 (Mt West) 27 N. Ill MAC 28 N. Iowa Big 12 (MVC) 28 Ohio MAC 29 Missouri Big 12 (SEC) 29 Rider MAC 30 Oklahoma Big 12 (SEC) 30 SIUE MAC 31 Drexel EIWA 31 CSU Bakersfield Pas 12 (Big West) 32 Hofstra EIWA 32 App State So Con 33 Morgan St EIWA 33 Bellarmine So Con 34 Sacred Heart EIWA 34 Chattanooga So Con 35 George Mason MAC 35 Gardner-Webb So Con 36 Mercyhurst n/a 36 Presbyterian So Con 37 Oregon St Pac 12 37 The Citadel So Con 38 Cal Poly Pac 12 (Big Sky) 38 VMI So Con 39 Little Rock Pac 12 (OVC) Cleveland St. MAC dropping team 40 Campbell So Con 41 Davidson So Con
  7. Why doesn't anyone seem to blame the wrestler for not knowing. I would think any wrestler who is staying around for his 6th year might inquire or figure it out before hand. Just blaming the compliance person is a little unfair. The wrestler and coach clearly are more in tune with the individual facts and details about the wrestling team. I just went to the Little Rock wrestling roster website and even that page has him as a Redshirt Junior in 2022-2023. Therefore, 2023-2024 was redshirt senior (5th year) and 2024-2025 is his 6th year. Obviously one year too many. Its not hard. You get 5 years eligibility to compete in 4 seasons (assumes 1 redshirt if you take it), unless you competed in 2021, which was eligibility free (i.e. Starocci). Regarding the NCAA alternate getting the spot over the PAC runner-up. It is presumed the PAC runner-up was already considered when NCAA picked the wild cards and alternate. So it should go to the alternate. Bad look on the athlete, coaches, and others that can't count properly. This is there job.
  8. Also, which was mentioned in a different Intermat article (I think) they joined a conference the Coastal Athletic Conference (I guess must have been in Big south or something I read). When I took the time to compare Campbell list of athletic teams and the teams that the Coastal Athletic Conference hosts. Other than Cheerleading (which campbell has both men and women team) the only sport that CAA doesn't host that Campbell has is wrestling (they wrestle in the SoCon). Obvious outliner team (wrestling) that doesn't fit the athletic department profile of other CAA teams gets screwed.
  9. My guess on this issue: 1) they are "opting in" which means roster has to get down to 30 next year. And Football scholarships go up from 85 to 105 (+20). Nothing in another Intermat article that they also took scholarships from mens & womans golf, tennis and another sport. I think what they must be doing is taking scholarships from those 6 teams pus the wrestling team to come up the the 20 more scholarships that they will give to football. 2) saying current scholarship folks can't compete helps them quit and therfore helps get the roster down to 30. 3) In my experience when the wrestler signs the nationial letter of intent and then the scholarship Grant In Aid with financial aid office it is for the full 4 years (at least in the case of one of my family members). The document basically says if you are off the team (because of reasons like cut because not good wrestler anymore, hurt, etc) you still keep your scholarship. So I would presume if these scholarship kids are cut and just students, then they can still walk around as a student at Campbell without wrestling and STILL be getting their athletic contracted scholarship. In this case you have taken scholarships from wrestling in theory, but if those kids are still students getting paid, you have not eliminated thosed scholarships to give to the football team. BUT if you kinda force the kid to quit Campbell university by not letting him compete, then when he leaves the actual scholarship money becomes available to give to football. Just my reasoned guess.
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