Wrestej

Except Carr was at 157 not nearly as deep as 165, either year. Of course, all of this is relative because it’s just my opinion, which doesn’t mean shit.

I get it you would like Mocco to drop. I would like to win lottery. Odds are probably similar for both.

Funny you say this because in a different thread I agreed Mauller needs to come up with his own offensive attacks. When what I really think it is is that he is not nearly as comfortable with his own attacks as trying to use his opponent’s attacks against themselves. Not Brock’s fault it was how he was taught from an early age and what he is more comfortable with but until he starts initiating his own attacks to keep his opponents more off balance or wondering it is going to be difficult. I believe his attacks are adequate now but it doesn’t matter what I think or feel because I’m not the one on the mat. My choice of words were poor in the other thread. He doesn’t need to develop his attacks as much as believe in them more. When he does will open up a lot more opportunities for himself. You are right, these kids know more moves and techniques than I ever will but when it is all on the line and one mistake could cost them they are definitely going to go with what is in their comfort zone. This is where having a good room comes into play and doing it enough when who cares if you don’t come out on top that it becomes second nature and become comfortable in high leverage situations.

Definitely agree he needs to develop his own attacks.

He is cutting to get to 174

O’Toole isn’t going down for Mocco to wrestle 165. No way is Mocco sucking to 157.

Absolutely he is better on his feet and on the mat, both top and bottom. I have watched over 50 matches of his and I have never once seen him in a position on the mat where he looks nervous or somewhere he is not in complete control. I truly don’t think he loses another match in college, which means he will finish with one loss. Best thing is we get to watch while he’s doing it. He is must see. Very few come along like him.

So you don’t think Mauller AA’s?

I doubt very seriously Dresser let’s Carr wrestle O’Toole more than twice this year outside of AA’s. Regardless of how many times they do wrestle O’Toole will add to Carr’s loss column. Barring an injury during match O’Toole wins. Only way Carr wins is if he doesn’t let him touch him for 2 1/2 periods and some way gets a td at the end. I don’t see that outcome though. O’Toole is just better in every position.

I think he majors Carr. Lots of people probably don’t realize just how good this kid is. He shut it down in the all star match. He doesn’t stop just keeps going keeps scoring. Special

Just my opinion. We will see how the year goes.

O’Toole will not lose this year and quite possibly not another college match, barring injury. This kid is special. I’ve watched him wrestle a lot and he is always in control. He went through a gauntlet last years Championships with a broke ankle. Nobody is going to stop him and to be honest I don’t even think it is close. If he put his mind to it I think he could bonus everyone this year including Carr. O’Toole will go down as an all timer. I think the only thing that keeps him from going up to 174 and taking on Starocci is staying in closer range to 74kg for Olympic weight.

Zero chance Mocco ever sees 157. Hell two years ago he was at 165 and O’Toole was 157 for less than a month and both bumped up to where they are now. I think he has grown into the weight pretty well. He never looks undersized in comparison to his competition. I thought he beat Lewis last year but they didn’t award 2 at end of regulation. Ended up losing in sudden victory. Tells me he’s right there with the top in the weight class. He hasn’t seen 157 since 3 years ago and that year ended in November for him, tore up his knee in route to his victory over Carr. Happened right in front of me. Felt awful for him but he gutted out the rest of the match and held on to win. If all goes right at Championships I think he can AA.

Zero chance Mocco ever sees 157. Hell two years ago he was at 165 and O’Toole was 157 for less than a month and both bumped up to where they are now.

I meant all schools are back in person. So athletics are back to normal or before 2019.

Why no more rankings? I thought it was just because of Covid they stopped but high school is full swing again and nothing. Are they going to return?

The way you keep posting this to Cinnabon makes me remember a movie from my teenage years. A newspaper boy follows a guy all throughout the movie wanting his two dollars.

Ya I think this is wrong. He might be the best at 149 but you can’t hold the #1 spot when you have more losses than wins.

Did I go into a coma and miss some years? When did Schults win a ncaa title?

You aren’t that far off with just Brooks

I apologize, I didn’t realize ncaa changed the rules to allow athletes to wrestle in duals while in redshirt year. Odd.

Red shirt wins and losses don’t count toward your record

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. – University of Missouri Head Wrestling Coach Brian Smith was inducted into the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame Sunday, Nov. 20. Beginning his career as Missouri's seventh head wrestling coach, Smith sat down with his team and made a list of goals that he hoped would help the 1998 squad and future Tiger teams. Over the past 24 years, he and the many men that have come through the Mizzou wrestling program have slowly but surely checked items off that original list. Individual Big 12 and MAC Conference Champions, improved grade-point averages, record-setting attendances, a No. 1 national ranking and Missouri's first-ever NCAA National Champion in wrestling were all on Smith's "to-do" list. His unique "Tiger Style" training program has molded today's team into a national powerhouse that continues to pursue the program's first team NCAA title. Since being introduced as Missouri's Head Wrestling Coach on May 5, 1998, Smith owns 21 consecutive seasons with a dual record at or above .500, beginning with the 2001-02 season, and has coached 29 All-Americans to 60 top-eight performances and six Tigers to nine national championships. The winningest coach in program history, Smith has compiled a 319-114-4 record at Missouri over his 24-plus season tenure. He became Missouri's first 300-win coach in program history, eclipsing the milestone, Jan. 8, 2021, in a 30-6 triumph over No. 21 Central Michigan. With a .737 career winning percentage, Smith holds the highest winning percentage in Mizzou wrestling history. He earned six consecutive conference Coach of the Year honors from 2012-17, including five straight awards by the MAC league office. Additionally, he has been honored as the top wrestling coach in the NCAA twice in his career, first being named the Dan Gable Coach of the Year by W.I.N. Magazine in 2007, then Smith was named the National Wrestling Coaches Association Coach of the Year in 2017. Six Tiger wrestlers have reached the pinnacle of collegiate wrestling, collecting nine NCAA Championships under Smith's tenure, beginning with Ben Askren. During Askren's Tiger career, Smith guided the 174-pound grappler to the program's first back-to-back National Championship titles (2006 and 2007). On March 21, 2009, Mark Ellis became the second Missouri wrestler in program history to collect top honors. In 2010, Max Askren became the third national champion in the history of the program, as he dominated the No. 1 seed in the 184-pound weight class by a 10-3 score. After a four-year drought, true freshman J'den Cox claimed the program's fifth national title in 2013-14 after defeating Ohio State's Nick Heflin, 2-1. A year later, redshirt senior Drake Houdashelt concluded his historical Tiger Style career with a 149-pound National Championship at the 2015 NCAA's. In 2016, Cox returned to the top of the podium at Madison Square Garden, becoming the second two-time NCAA Champ in program history. Cox then became the program's first ever three-time national champion when he defended his title in 2017, to finish his incredible Tiger career. In 2022, freshman Keegan O'Toole became the Tigers' first national champion at 165 pounds while completing the fourth undefeated individual season in program history, joining B. Askren (2006-07) and Cox (2017). Additionally, Smith has helped guide two wrestlers to the Olympics. B. Askren was the first wrestler in program history to compete in the summer games with an appearance in the 2008 Beijing Summer Olympics, followed by Cox, who won bronze at the 2016 Rio Summer Olympics. A native of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., where his father coached football, Smith was a two-time wrestling state champion in 1984 with Oviedo High School and 1985 while competing at St. Thomas Aquinas High School. The Florida native graduated from Michigan State with a degree in education and married the former Denise Dean in 1993. Brian and Denise, have three children, Quinn, Kylie and Braden. In the spring of 2009, Smith received his Master's Degree in Athletic Administration from William Woods University.

Ya. Might be a little merit in their argument with the elite claim. Ivy degree still superior. I would of like to had either one I went to HKU.

Penn State people can argue all they want but an Ivy degree has far more value, but to each their own. As for if you care about a degree, why else would you go to University. That is exactly what it is for, higher learning. If you just want to wrestle how about any RTC or OTC. Worked for Cejudo.