Ulrey on bottom for third. paddy riding. Mat returns. Ulrey flat on belly. Paddy releases and the shoots for TD. Big turnaround. 13-8. Ulrey dives in on single. PD called as Paddy grabs and pulls foot.
paddy goes for TD. Ref gives 2 but time was up. 14-8 with RT.
Big turnaround in this match.
Paddy G vs not Andonian. Ulrey.
gallagher on offense but 0-0. And then ../ Ulrey TD! Esc. 2-1. Stalling Gallagher.
another great shot by Ulrey … 4-1. Stalling on Ulrey I think for pulling out. Tried hard to ride but Gallagher gets reversal. Was sitting out and spun in to face.
Ulrey up 4-3. 2nd pd .Gallagher out. 4-4.
Ulrey in again. 2! 6-4. Stalemate. Gallagher’s defense not strong. Ulrey getting good shots and finishes. Esc. 6-5 Ulrey.
ok - wow. Gallagher with shot with head pulled down. Nearly gets cradle and pin. Gets 2 and 4 backs!!!
11-5 Gallagher!
Henson deep often but can’t finish. Sasso threats lead to stalemate. Sasso winning 3-0 in second. Neutral.
Sasso dives in but caught under. Nothing. Henson takes down for third.
Love it, announcer points out that the RT is not right. That all? Other announcer needs to point out that everything on board is not right.
Henson out 1-3. Stall warning on Sasso.
Sasso not impressive. Ugly
TD Henson!! OOB. 3-3
OOB. Sasso crawling to center?
going to OT.
Sasso looks tired.
Sasso shot. Can’t pull in. Sasso threatens. TD Henson!!!!!
Can you imagine the venom that would be spewed toward Flo if they started charging for watching many events? On top of their regular subscription ….
The vehement Flo haters would be apoplectic.
Aren’t you creating multiple accounts to seem more popular? Getting reactions? Getting people to laugh at your posts? Create awkward situations that gather attention to you?
oh, wait, you didn’t want to be accused of that … Woops, not accusing, just asking.
Most are not under athletic scholarship. They aren’t privileged in that way. And those that are usually only have a fractional scholarship. Paying 50 to 75% of costs at Northwestern is huge. Even out of state student at a state school. In other words those that have the money can more easily do it. I have heard no disagreement with this.
NIL? Who has the time and energy to focus on NIL? The super elite and the priviledged. Let me take a selfie and focus on my tik toks! (Haha)
On 3 - ok.
All well said. I agree with what you just wrote in large part. I do admit to disagreeing with choices many make. A parent screaming at their 8 year old kid who is losing a wrestling match is an example. I’d look for ways to get across why those choices aren’t good for them, their loved ones, or society.
I would also disagree with a high school systematically creating a path for high school athletes to take 5 years to graduate because it provides them a ‘benefit.’ Even if the parents and kid wanted it. I transfer this belief to college as well.
A redshirt significantly equalizes 5+ year of socio economic differences? I don’t know but I’m not jumping to this conclusion. How do you explain paying for the 5th year? Less well off family is taking more loans.
All that said, I would conjecture that taking a redshirt and taking a grey shirt DOES skew toward more well off families. Those that need their kid to graduate in four (and get a job) due to financial situations are more likely to not take a redshirt.
The privilege argument cuts both ways.
To be clear, I don’t like grey shirts.
Can you paint the picture for me though? Why would only well off families be the exclusive users? If at an RTC, RTC can cover room and board. Kid could have part time job. Don’t tell me they can’t fit in a simple part time job.
I think your logic would also imply that redshirts are almost exclusively for those well off. Why pay for ANOTHER year of school - a gray shirt year is much cheaper! You need to address this point.
And AGAIN, I’m all for getting rid of greyshirts. I think it is harder than getting rid of redshirts.
Thank you for directly addressing my questions. To answer yours, I donate annually to my college’s academic fund as well as specifically to the athletic program (sometimes more than once a year due to drives). Not sure that makes my case any stronger.
You and I have dramatically different opinions on the purpose of a university and the role of athletics at the university. That is the root of our disagreement on redshirts. And that is fine.
Many of the ideas you support our would not mind, I would oppose. And that is ok.
Curious to your thoughts on ‘redshirting’ a year or two in high school? I’m guessing you are good with that.
hmmm. So, would you use this reasoning to support 2 redshirt years? 25 full scholarships plus being paid beyond scholarship? Ability to transfer at any point? No need to take more than 8 credits for student athletes?
Just trying to understand whether the only litmus test you use is ‘benefit to student athletes.’
My guess is that you do think there should be limits to the benefits. Because there is more to consider. We just differ on the placement of those limits.
I also clearly pointed out that taking a redshirt would fall into the ‘privilege’ realm. If you are paying for 50% of school (or 25%), having the option to pay for a 5th year is pretty privileged … no?
Compare to Greyshirt - not paying for school or it is cheap (community college). Which is more privileged?
@Theo Brixton - your solution would be better than today.